Talk:Kundapur

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History says that "Panchakanya" resided in one place. They are Kubja,Khedaka,Varahi.Souparnika& Chakra-five rivers joined by forming "Pancha Gangavali" resulting as "Gangolli". In the Bottom of this place the city laid is "Kundapura". This is the crown of South kanara (Undivided Dist.) having 4 Kshethras of "Parusharama Srusti"- "Saptha Kshethra" center of golden temple with richest culture & folk lore stayed as unique place in the state.

It's hard to understand. Prater 15:19, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Pillar
Pillar means Kunda in Kannada see http://books.google.com/books?id=HBUsaxC61mkC&dq=Kannada+pillar&as_brr=3&source=gbs_navlinks_s see page no 441, kunda means pillar in kannada. in tulu language pillar means "Kammha" http://books.google.com/books?id=ay8o3cNCPfoC&dq=tulu+english+dictionary&source=gbs_navlinks_s see page no 398. C 21 K talk 13:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

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is kundapur part of tulunadu? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.10.5 (talk) 09:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Off course Kundapura is a part of Tulunadu. The Kundapura kannada speaking people have the same culture of Tulu speakers. In the past Tulu was the majority language here.223.237.232.242 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:04, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Kundeswara temple subtopic
The Kundeswara temple subtopic in this article appear more like a personal opinion in a forum. The article should provide information about the place, it location in Kundapura etc. And not reasons it could be a better tourist place and earn more revenue. Please, I would request someone who know the place better to improve it. --Sunny dealmeida (talk) 11:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC) Kundapura is the name derived from kudeshwara temple. The main deity here is Sri kudeshwara I,e Lord Shiva who resides here with his wife Sri parvathiamma and son Sri Ganesha. With them we have Sri Nagadeva and Sri Ayyappa. As we know the temple was built by Raja kundaverma who was from barkur region he wanted a place and fell in love with the beauty and surroundings here and thought of building a temple for his kuldeva Sri kudeshwara here. It's belived that king has heard about this place(kundapura) from some local people that during sunrise and sunset the place shines like gold because when sunrays hit the water the golden reflection fell on the ground and this place is very fertile so soil is also like gold .This place is precious and delicate same as work done on a gold (kundan, work of gold). So here's one more reason why he decided to build a temple for his kuldeva and name it after the god.

language
Kundapura is not a part of tulunadu. Tulu is mother tongue of less than 5% of population and its not used. Kundapura Kannada is mother tongue of all kundapurean ppl. RNM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neinsun (talk • contribs) 17:26, 3 April 2011

Off course Kundapura is a part of Tulunadu. The Kundapura kannada speaking people have the same culture of Tulu speakers though they speak Kundagannada language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.237.195.135 (talk) 05:44, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Clean up and moving.
Wikipedia isnt a place for posting tourist guides. I propose the removal of places of interest Djds4rce (talk) 09:04, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Is Kundapura is part of Tulunadu?
From the point of view of language definately Kundapura is not a part of Tulunadu. Entire Kundapura region right from Brahmavara to Byndoor-Shiroor are purely talking Kunda-Kannada only. But there are similarities in castism, culture, beliefs (Daiwa/Boota/Naaga) etc. Offcourse for give and take (consideration for marriage) amongst the main cast like Bunts, Billavas & Mogaveeras is historically persists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.130.40.55 (talk) 11:57, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

In the olden days, Tulu language wаs widely spoken іn Kundapur region аnd the historical town оf Barkur served аs the capital city оf Tulunadu. Now, the ethnic Tuluvas, Bunts: Billavas, Mogaveeras living in Kundapur do not speak Tulu they speak Kunda Kannada. In the olden days, Tulu was spoken as far north as Gokarna in Uttara Kannnada, Kasargod district in Kerala. Parts of Shimoga, Chikamagulur, Hassan, Coorg districts as well in Karnataka, Kasargod district in Kerala. People cannot deny the past, you cannot change history. English is becoming more and more popular in Karnataka especially in cities such as Bangalore, In 100 years, are you going to say Bangalore is not part of Karnataka? - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.91.71.231 (talk) 19:33, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Very few people in Kundapur speak Tulu and the town is definitely not part of Tulunadu. pdh 20:27, 15 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PuttuHegde (talk • contribs)

Kundapur is part of Tulunadu, its populated by ETHNIC Tuluvas who do not speak Tulu. Language and Ethnicity are two different things. Language, like many things is fluid, it changes over time. Now Kannada is is the main language in the region. Kannada is also mainly spoken in towns like Udupi and Mangalore, and across Udupi and Mangalore districts. Kasargod region is also part of Tulunadu, However, Malayalam is the main language spoken in that region. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.95.191.141 (talk • contribs) 11:59, 13 March 2014

Malayalam is not the main language of Kasargod region. Malayalam has partly become more dominant in Kasargod town due to migration but not in other areas.The areas south of Chandagiri river are mostly Malayalam speaking. Kannada is not main language but administrative language of Mangalore and Udupi districts. 223.237.232.242 (talk)

Bunts, Billavas, Mogaveeras, Shettigars, et all are major communities in Kundapur. Vast majority of them speak Kannada as their first language. But ethnically they are Tuluvas. These communities are a majority spread from Kasargod in South in Kerala, parts of Coorg, Hassan, Chikamagalur, Shimoga, and Uttar Kannada in Karnataka. They speak Kannada, Malayalam, Kodogu, and Tulu. Tulunadu is reference to Ethnic Tuluvas, not the language they speak. Should there be a separate state for Tuluvas - NO. Should the language be protected and nurtured and made as one of the official languages - YES. — Preceding unsigned comment 16:38, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Tuluvas should have a seperate state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.237.195.135 (talk) 05:39, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Name of the town
I've moved the page from Kundapur, Karnataka to Kundapura. The disambiguation (Karnataka) is not needed because the town is clearly the primary topic. The previous move of Kundapura, Karnataka to Kundapur, Karnataka (on 3 Feb 2014) has been reversed following the discussion here. The reason given for the previous move (official name) is only one consideration in terms of WP:NAME. In the case of this move, Kundapura seems to be the more common usage, getting more google hits (approx 950k to 900k). If anyone thinks this is wrong, they should raise a discussion here. Imc (talk) 18:46, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Also, I moved Kundapur Taluk to Kundapura Taluk for the same reason. The talk page for the taluk redirects here. The discrepancy in google hits in favour of Kundapura is greater for the taluk, about 110k to 60k. Imc (talk) 18:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello Imc, you are interpreting WP:NAME selectively. "Kundapur" is more commonly used in the town than "Kundapura" and you need to visit the town to understand it. I have visited the place umpteen number of times and "Kundapura" is used rarely. Pdheg (talk) 06:23, 01 April 2014 (UTC)


 * User Pdheg, you are making no sense at all, not in terms of Wikipedia, not here, and not in the original dicussion on the India related topics noticeboard. It does not matter to anyone else often you have visited the town. It does not matter what the government says the name is (your argument on many other pages), Wikipedia does not deal with naming on the basis of government policy. It does not matter whether you think Kannada is pronounced differently to everyone else (I'm referring to your claim that Kannada ಸಾಗರ is pronounced 'sagar' as you claimed elsewhere). You have to justify the name in terms of Wikipedia naming policy, and this you have not even tried to address here or anywhere else despite quoting it in your above statement. Once you find others disagree with you, you need to address the arguments that they make, to engage in the discussion and try to get a consensus. Imc (talk) 20:38, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Imc, your claims do not make sense either. According to you city names should be written the way they are pronounced in Kannada. You say that it is the Wikipedia naming policy and I object to it saying that we have to use the name Government uses. I am for providing the information as is, which is contrary to the stand you hold. Why are you silent on "Bangalore"? Why is your theory not working in moving the page to "Bengaluru"? Please understand that Karnataka has diversity in culture and education. The naming pattern you are propagating is being used only in the radius of around 200 km from Bangalore and is specific to the education system in the southern districts of Karnataka. It is a different world altogether outside this circle. For example, outside of the southern districts in Karnataka, it is "Ganesh" and not "Ganesha" as you use in and around Bangalore. People from Coastal and North Karnataka do not attach 'a' at the end of a name. Moreover, South Karnataka Kannada is not the standard Kannada either and the rest of the Karnataka need not follow what Bangalore follows. Kindly do not push your nonsensical Kannada theory to the rest of the state.  Pdheg (talk) 03:08, 04 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I note that you have moved the page again, despite it being quite clear now that the name is in dispute. I note also that you still have not responded to my points in the original post. Also, you added an unnecessary disambiguation - was this to avoid going through the appropriate move procedure? Imc (talk) 13:07, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was no consensus. Moved to Kundapur, as Victor falk notes. --BDD (talk) 18:36, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Kundapur, Karnataka → Kundapura – The most common name, as shown in search results with the disambiguation Karnataka to correspond to the current name. For Kundapura there are 21000 hits, for Kundapur there are 16000 –. With a corresponding google book search the ratio is 82 to 65. The disamb is not needed, at this time anyway. The previous name change has not really been justified yet. --Relisted. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:02, 10 May 2014 (UTC) Imc (talk) 19:10, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose Here is the official website of Kundapur City Municipal Council. The name "Kundapur" is popularly used. Pdheg Talk to me 21:19, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment "Karnataka" is a superfluous disambiguation and should be dropped regardless of which version of the name is chosen. walk victor falktalk 01:01, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Tulu is not an official language of Kundapur
Tulu is the regional language of Kundapur. It is not the official language of this town. Simple-man-everyday (talk) 02:15, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

'Tulu Nadu' is not an official region of Karnataka
Tulu Nadu is not an officially recognized region of Karnataka. Tulu Nadu is not classified under the regions of Karnataka. Simple-man-everyday (talk) 02:15, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Page not up to date with latest details
I think the page is outdated a lot. There is no new information here. 103.50.20.139 (talk) 02:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Connections to historical Kundaverma/Kundayya?
Understand that the name might have been derived from the original rulers Kundaverma or simply Kundayya. All who descended the throne had to use Kundayya as their second name. Two kings who descended had names as Rudrapparasu Kundayya Hegde and the next two called as Laxmapparau Kundayya Hegde. In the history I have seen that one Laxmapparasu was killed in a battle. His widow settled down somewhere else possibly in a village called Kuthyar in Udupi district and bought nearby villages and ruled the place. The last king of Kuthyar who died in 1983 at the age 84 was known as Laxmapparasu Kundayya Hegde. Kuthyar Palace× is still there who was passed on to the last king’s sister’s eldest son as per matriarchal system. I know them personally because I lived in Kuthyar until I was five and learnt from my parents about the widow who settled in Kuthyar. Lynwood2023 (talk) 17:00, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Please read the core Wikipedia policy No Original Research which explains that all material in Wikipedia must be attributable to a reliable, published source - in other words: personal knowledge is not enough, it must be backed up with documentary evidence. - DarylKayes (talk) 06:59, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * DarylKayes above is correct that 'I think I remember reading something somewhere once...' is not a basis for making any changes to any of our articles, and neither is personal supposition that some names of various modern persons or places might be related in some way to an ancient subject.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  07:20, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * [End of material moved from the other talk page.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  08:57, 1 October 2023 (UTC)]
 * That's not to say the above ideas aren't worth looking for in published, reliable sources.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  08:57, 1 October 2023 (UTC)