Talk:Lady Gaga

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2024
To the end of the paragraph "In February 2024, Fortnite released Season 2's Fortnite Festival, having Lady Gaga as the season's featured artist with a month long Festival Pass which allowed players to receive rewards while playing the game. In-game cosmetics themed around Gaga were also added into the in-game item shop, alongside additions of her songs as jam tracks.[466]"

Add "Playable Lady Gaga skins, including the Dead Lotus Couture leotard worn by the artist during her Chromatica Ball, were also made available to players."

https://www.fortnite.com/news/fortnite-festival-season-2-unlock-your-talent-features-lady-gaga?lang=en-US Yoshuajoung (talk) 13:30, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: The fortnite source you provided is not considered WP:RELIABLE as it comes from a WP:PRIMARY source.  Coco bb8  (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Contrary to what Cocobb8 seems to think, being a primary source doesn't inherently mean something is untrustworthy. They can be used for non-contentious claims where there is no reasonable doubt of authenticity. However, I'm not sure all this detail is worth including regardless of what type of source it comes from. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Audio file
@SNUGGUMS: I noticed you have reverted my edit where I included a recording of Lady Gaga singing in her infobox. As far as I am aware, it is common practice to include a recording of a person's voice on biographic articles if such a recording is available (for example: Albert Einstein, Barack Obama, Jimmy Wales, and hundreds of other examples at ) since a person's voice is useful biographical information. If you have a problem with the fact that it is a recording of her singing and not in regular speaking, then feel free to find such a (Free Content) recording and upload it to Commons. ― Howard • 🌽33 12:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen it used nearly as often as images or even signatures, though for the record, I regardless wouldn't recommend it for those linked pages either. Singing tends to be 30-second maximum samples that might get used in song or album articles when not featured in a bio, and are you sure your additon is even free of copyright? It would help to keep WP:Non-free content criteria in mind and I'm still not sure how this could be "useful biographical information". SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * With this rational, I'm guessing there is thousands of articles you need to remove audio samples from, matter of fact I've created and posted many myself. Extremely poor rational in my opinion, however this particular sample is too long, right around 30 seconds is normal. -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 13:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I am sure my addition is free of copyright since it was taken from this video, which is a US Federal govt work, and is thus in the public domain. The reason audio recordings aren't as common as images or signatures is because finding Free Content recordings of individuals is difficult. It's easier for anyone to take a quick photograph or an autograph of someone than it is to have them stand and speak into a microphone for even a minute. The only reason audio of songs in Wikipedia articles are generally restricted to around 30 seconds is due to Fair Use copyright restrictions, which limit the amount the audio of a copyrighted song can appear on Wikipedia. Works of older music which have entered the public domain are often shown in full. (eg. Symphony No. 9, Rhapsody in Blue, The Entertainer)
 * As far as I am aware, it has been common practice to include people's voices in their Wikipedia articles since 2013, so there appears to be unspoken consensus that a person's voice is useful biographical information. I do not mean that this practice is an established guideline or rule written in any help page on Wikipedia, but it should still be noted that I am not the only person who thinks that a person's voice is useful in their article. However, if you believe that people's voices should not be included across all articles, then it may be prudent to start this discussion elsewhere so that we may have a more general and consistent policy regarding voice recordings across all biographical articles. ― Howard • 🌽33 13:07, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * With non-free samples, there at least tend to be captions discussing the audio and relevance. You still haven't elaborated on what benefit(s) this gives from what I can tell. SNUGGUMS (talk / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 17:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, the benefit of having her voice in this article is that it directly demonstrates her singing voice. Since she is a singer by occupation, I believe it is relevant to people who are trying to learn about her singing style that we have a sample of her singing. It's a bit like having an article about a famous painter without showing a single painting they've made. A reference for those unfamiliar would be helpful in this case, and I am not aware of any other free content recordings of her singing. ― Howard • 🌽33 17:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)