Talk:Languages of the Iberian Peninsula

Map!!
This article desperatly needs a detailed map showing all living languages and dialects in the Iberian peninsula. Anyone has one? The Ogre 18:20, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Lusitanian language
I have always thought that the Lusitanian language was an Indo-European language distinct from the Celtic branch. I am editing the page to reflect this. I hope no-one has any objections.

Proposal to merge Prehistoric Spain with Prehistoric Portugal & move to Prehistoric Iberia
Currently, the text of Prehistoric Spain seems really to be about prehistoric Iberia. Similarly, the text of Prehistoric Portugal seems really to be about the same thing. This would be perfectly understandable seeing as there was no Spain and no Portugal in prehistoric times. I have argued therefore that it would be best to have these articles merged under a title which indicates the geographical region rather than the modern states. I have proposed the articles be merged and moved to Prehistoric Iberia. Please come and discuss my proposal. Jimp 09:03, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello Jim. If the merge goes through, what shall we do with Pre-Roman Portugal? You see, Prehistoric Spain encompasses a period that the "Portuguese" articles differentiated into Prehistoric Portugal and Pre-Roman Portugal. Should we merge them all? The Ogre 13:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

the map in German is wrong
It's wrong. In Western Valencia and Southern Navarre only Castilian is spoken. --Taraborn (talk) 23:16, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Cooficial languages
I tend to agree the maps are confusing - so I added another! (From the Spanish site). The section I have added could perhaps be integrated or merged into Languages of Spain but that article looked quite good anyway. Comments? Timpo (talk) 10:12, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm. The language/province names are still in Spanish and the Fully Bilingual column looks wrong. Or the translation isn't quite right because there is no WAY that there are only 3.8% (comma needs changing to . by the way) are bilingual in Catalan and Spanish. The links to the refs are not working either. Akerbeltz (talk) 10:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, (some of?) these figures are totally wrong. It makes no sense 0.8% are other language speakers in Valencia. Sources should be verified. Jɑυмe (xarrades) 19:39, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

It's still a mess, I'm probably going to stump it to those where we have census figures. I will also simplify the categories into speakers of x and speakers of y, AFAIK we have no reliable data for how many are native bilinguals and how many aren't these days. It's usually very hard to tell anyway. Akerbeltz (talk) 19:04, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Done. I've used the latest census figures I could find and I've nixed all bar the speakers of co-official languages colum. Castilian will be close to 100% as they're all bilingual bar some immigrant % who don't speak either but that's not really the point of the table. The strange mother tongue vs speakers was also confusing as heck (and I'm used to this kind of speak) so I've just used a simple "speakers" %, especially since not all sources go into that much detail as to specifying the point at which bilingualism was achieved. Akerbeltz (talk) 19:57, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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