Talk:Lilias Armstrong

Chatterji (1968) reprint
Not sure if it's worth mentioning in the article, but I found out that the Chatterji (1968) paper was reprinted in. I consulted the original 1968 publication but in case a future editor finds this reprint easier to access I thought I'd mention it in the talk page, if not bracketed off after the reference itself. I haven't read the reprint myself so I don't know if it's revised/amended in any way. Umimmak (talk) 06:05, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Middle initial in infobox
Quoting Template:Infobox person:

If there is truly consensus on Wikipedia that the article title has to be the same as the article title, I’ll concede, but then the documentation for this infobox really needs to be clarified if this goes against established consensus. Contemporary sources mostly call her "Lilias Armstrong", but sources in her lifetime often used "Lilias E. Armstrong"; a case could probably be made to have the title be either. Umimmak (talk) 08:26, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


 * But the middle initial is listed separately in the birth name parameter - it states the full name. Oh and for the avoidance of doubt, if the article is moved to 'Lilias E. Armstrong' at RM, I would obviously support the inclusion of the initial in the infobox. The infobox title should accurately reflect the article title. GiantSnowman 08:40, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Well additional FAs where name != title:
 * John Balmer John Raeburn Balmer
 * George Washington (inventor) George C. L. Washington
 * Émile Lemoine Émile Michel Hyacinthe Lemoine
 * Rachel Carson Rachel Louise Carson
 * Howard Florey The Lord Florey
 * The birth name parameter is used since it would largely just repeat name; it would be a misuse of that parameter to do so (again, see infobox documentation).
 * Where are you seeing that the infobox title should accurately reflect the article title? Per MOS:INFOBOXNAME: "The template should have a large, bold title line. Either a table caption or a header can be used for this. It should be named the common name of the article's subject but may contain the full (official) name;, but falling back to use that (with PAGENAMEBASE) is usually fine. It should not contain a link." The name with the middle initial could be seen as an "full(er), (more) official name", since as mentioned it is a common way she was referred to even if it’s not WP:COMMONNAME in contemporary sources. I won’t revert again if you remove the middle initial, but please link something to support your rationale as I have done to support mine. Surely this must have come up under discussion before if what you consider to be policy goes directly against what Template:Infobox person suggests? Umimmak (talk) 08:55, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS for those examples. Where is the policy you refer to? My experience of editing BLPs for nearly 20 years is that the name parameter reflects the article title and the birth/full name is in the birth/full name parameters (that is why we have those parameters). The only exception seems to be aristocracy/royalty. GiantSnowman 10:35, 29 September 2023 (UTC)