Talk:List of Berlin Wall segments

Missing entry
There is a segment of the Berlin Wall located in Reston, Virginia. Photo can be found here: http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/image.aspx?f=1&guid=63df4f57-bfba-47a4-b8a9-69a6bcd37faa&gid=3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.88.82.34 (talk) 19:24, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

reliablesources tag
What specifically is the concern here? I don't think the article really requires non-primary sources to verify the presence of Berlin Wall fragments...it's just a factual statement not an interpretation or explanation or scholarly conclusion. So are there doubts about the authenticity of some of these pieces, or their locations, or just a feeling that there ought to be more citations in this article? DMacks 08:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Missing entry
I happened to come across this page today, and noticed there is possibly a missing entry. I used to serve at Ft. Knox in Kentucky, and have been to the Patton Museum there twice. When I was there, I distinctly remember seeing a fragment of the Berlin wall. Specifically, on this particular fragment was some graffiti which had the words "tear down this wall" written on it. This was a long time ago though as I haven't been to Ft. Knox since the later days of 2001. I don't know whether or not this piece is authentic, but I did a google search for it, and pictures of it can be found here:

http://www.generalpatton.org/exhibits/additional.asp

Until somebody finds proof of otherwise, I am going to assume it is authentic (it seemed authentic to me) and therefore add it to this list. AlphaWolf

I discovered a piece of Berliner Mauer in the UN gardens in New York City today. Nice. 204.52.215.107 03:22, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

There are at least two portions of the wall, with graffiti, standing in the sculpture garden of a Frank Lloyd Wright house called Kentuck Knob (Hagan House) in Western Pennsylvania (near Falling Water - the most famous FLW house). Kentuck Knob is now open to the public (reservations required) and is well worth a visit - it is far more impressive than Falling Water in many respects. Reputedly, there is a third portion of the wall in the Nemacolin Woodlands Resort ten minutes away in Farmington, PA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wallsgrove (talk • contribs) 19:21, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Presidio of Monterey, CA
There are a few pieces at the Defense Language Institute, at the Presidio of Monterey, CA. Here are a few links which show this:

http://www.pbase.com/davidclanton/image/86175112 http://www.pbase.com/davidclanton/image/54489609 http://coldwarsurvivors.tribe.net/thread/dfb56c95-c2fd-4e4a-9b4e-892046c3c461 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.3.195.225 (talk) 17:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Cambridge, MA
A piece of the wall is located outside in the new NorthPoint development, but I can't find any sources. Help?  Leo- Roy! review/gb 02:41, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Rename the article
Can we rename this article "List of Berlin Wall segments" instead of List of Berlin Wall portions" and consequently preferably use the word segment throughout instead of portions? The Wall pieces referred to are actually individual units lined up, so the word segment fits better to that. A portion is more like a piece cut out of one solid mass (e.g. portion of potato salad), which the Wall was not. Some definitions to back up this difference: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/segment http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/portion

For instance, the initial Berlin_Wall_monument_Chicago.jpg image shows the word ‘segment’.

Can we have a consensus on this? Alandeus (talk) 12:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


 * As no comments for or against have been submitted concerning the renaming/moving, I took the liberty of doing so after waiting about four weeks. Alandeus (talk) 13:38, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Mexico City
As far as I know, there are three segments of the Wall in Mexico City. Two are located at the Alexander von Humboldt school's Xochimilco and Lomas Verdes campuses. The other is in the Roma neighborhood. Photos of the segments can be found here: Muro de Berlín --Cazadordemolinos (talk) 05:08, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Singapore
Can someone who is more experienced (and have more time) add info from here please: http://www.singapur.diplo.de/Vertretung/singapur/en/06/Whats__on/seite__berlin__days__exhibition__wall.html According to the article four sections of the wall, which have a total length of 4.80 m and a height of 3.60 m, have been erected at the east coast of Bedok Reservoir Park. These segments feature the painting "Kings of Freedom". Then the article goes on to talk about more stuff. KPUFFERFİSH T • C 14:52, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

World in Conflict CE
Is it notable enough that small pieces of the Berlin Wall came bundled with the Collector Edition copies of the Cold War-themed RTS World in Conflict (ref)? Just asking... --Koveras ☭ 15:22, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Pieces large and small of the Berlin Wall have been distributed around the world as souvenirs. They are not the subject of this article. This is a list of full-sized wall segments that are generally re-erected for public display. Alandeus (talk) 14:24, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, OK. Sorry for misunderstanding, then. ^^; --Koveras ☭ 16:04, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Sri Lanka
There is a very small piece at the residence of the late Dr.Arthur C. Clark. I have personally witnessed it while visiting his home shortly after his passing away. It is about the size of 4 square centimeters. I do not know if it deserves to be mentioned here though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.129.232.192 (talk) 14:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thousands of people took small sections, so I don't think this is worth mentioning. Frietjes (talk) 15:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

CIA Headquarters, Langley VA
Three sections of the wall that were originally close to checkpoint Charlie are now on display at CIA Campus. The fact is mentioned in Tom Clancy's Debt of Honor (1994) [ISBN 0-399-13954-0]. The information is verifiable at: https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/a-walk-outside-headquarters.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.50.121.64 (talk) 19:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC) >
 * Yep, a simple Google image search confirms this too... still not added?

74.211.44.152 (talk) 06:22, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Dallas Hilton Anatole Fragments
Descriptive Plaque of the Berlin Wall Fragment at the Dallas Hilton Anatole. It reads as: "Berlin Wall Segment "Symbols of Freedom" Measuring a towering 12 feet in height, and 4 feet wide, these two massive segments of the Berlin Wall weigh a total of 11,905 pounds.

A German artist, Jurden Grope, has agged his personal touch to the concrete structures by painting the words "Wir" meaning "We" and "Langst" translated "A long length of time."

He signed and dated them: Berlin 1990"

Article organization
Is there some kind of organization to this list that I'm missing? I'm inclined to group by country or state etc. within continent, so let me know if there's a reason not to. Elf | Talk 20:48, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The 'organization' sort of grew by itself I suppose. It is roughly grouped by countries, but you are welcome to sort it out even better, Elf. Alandeus (talk) 06:56, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

"unwahr" vs "un Wohr", Westminster College, Fulton, Missouri, USA
The graffiti on these segments consistently reads "un Wohr" (with space and "o"). But I don't know German, and "wohr" doesn't seem to appear in online German dictionaries. Could someone confirm whether or not "a" is written like "o" in 20th century West Berlin graffiti? DFN (talk) 12:53, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * A better picture might help. A small "a" in German ought to look like any ol' small "a" and not like an "o". But then again, this is graffiti, and typography can get rather sloppy with that medium. It ought to be "unwahr" (i.e. 'untrue'), unless the sprayer was taking some artistic liberties. Alandeus (talk) 15:38, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Segment no longer where this list says
The segment in Rochester, NY is no longer there. http://rocwiki.org/Every_Wall_Falls_Eventually [The source link on this page is broken. I found the archived version of the story here http://13wham.com/template/cgi-bin/archived.pl?type=basic&file=/news/features/top-stories/stories/archive/2014/11/PaJdTBEi.xml#.VVdXMJO2o8I from November 12, 2014]

Is there a protocol for removing entries from the list? Or is there a separate list for segments that use to be somewhere but now aren't?

108.46.209.234 (talk) 14:56, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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Fremont, Seattle segment incorrect
The segment of the Berlin Wall in Fremont, Seattle is located on a street corner (34th St and Troll Ave), not a sculpture garden or museum. The coordinates can be found at (47.6493345, -122.3475480). Eggonegg (talk) 09:49, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

many more segments
Ripley's Believe It or Not! has 15 full 10'x10' segments, many on display in their museums around the world, but most in the US 71.46.215.202 (talk) 20:53, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

A link for a reference in case someone wants to add this to the list: https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/berlin-wall/ Alandeus (talk) 06:58, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

List Style
Have revised list style and corrected some content. Page requires better sourcing. Atomix330 (talk) 04:23, 7 February 2023 (UTC)