Talk:List of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies characters/Archive 1

Tasmanian Devil
I accidentally messed up The Tasmanian Devil's main article. Can someone please fix it?

Bruno
In the section "The 1930s": A link to Bruno's page is incorrect (it points to Bosko)

82.208.195.216 23:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Unnamed Alien
This alien appears in Hare-Way to the Stars and Jumpin' Jupiter and probably other episodes. Did this have a name? Characters with fewer appearances seem to have been listed here. --Happypeepeehead (talk) 04:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know about you, but if you're talking about the bird-like aliens, then they're the Instant Martians; hence the name of the condiment. Be more specific. 46.161.237.76 (talk) 07:07, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Response to "Unnamed Alien"
The alien you speak of is actually a species of aliens called The Instant Martians. They are the tall, green, bird-like slaves of Marvin the Martian. I added them to the list, so that should answer your question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.174.21 (talk) 14:27, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Wilbur
In the 1930s, to which page does this (wilbur) point too. All you get is a disambiguation page.--Master Bob (talk) 06:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

There are several mistakes in the links here... (1930's) Bruno (as said above) Cookie links to Buddy Fluffy links to Piggy Honey links to Bosko Little Kitty links to Beans
 * On second thought, perhaps it needs to be made clear that the character can be found on these pages....

(1940's) Mazie the Bird links to Horton Hears a Who (although on this page, "Mayzie is listed") The Mynah Bird links to Inky —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.182.245.170 (talk) 03:22, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Looney Tunes.png
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Tom And Jerry
Tom and Jerry are now Warner Bros owned since 98, does this make them looney tunes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabbyyellow (talk • contribs) 14:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Other Shows
Why Tiny Toon Adventures, Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain and Freakazoid are listed here; if all are of other shows? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.79.206.23 (talk • contribs)

Merge with individual character articles
Many Looney Tunes characters are not sufficiently individually notable to justify their own articles. As such, the following articles should be merged here: Willoughby the Dog, The Three Bears (Looney Tunes), Sylvester Junior, Spike the Bulldog and Chester the Terrier, Slowpoke Rodriguez, Ralph Phillips, Quick Brown Fox and Rapid Rabbit, Playboy Penguin, Piggy (Merrie Melodies), Pete Puma, Nasty Canasta, Merlin the Magic Mouse, Hector the Bulldog, Hatta Mari, Goopy Geer, Gabby Goat, Egghead, Jr. (Looney Tunes), The Crusher (Looney Tunes), Count Blood Count, Cool Cat, Conrad the Cat, Colonel Shuffle, Clyde Rabbit, Claude Cat, Charlie Dog, Cecil Turtle, Bunny and Claude, Blacque Jacque Shellacque, Beans (Looney Tunes), Beaky Buzzard, Babbit and Catstello, Melissa Duck, and Honey Bunny. Some of these characters, such as Piggy, are specific to Merrie Melodies. Nonetheless, Merrie Melodies and Loonie Tunes are so integrally entwined that characters from both should be listed on this article. Neelix (talk) 23:43, 14 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Too many characters who have headlined their own short, for one thing. What caused you to decide upon these out of all the characters? - jc37 03:12, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I did searches on Google Books, Google News, and Google Scholar for each one individually and found that neither of the ones I have identified have significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Just because a character is the star of a short does not make the character notable. To which article merges are you objecting? Neelix (talk) 14:08, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - headlining their own short is not notability. Notability is vast coverage by reliable secondary sources, impact in popular culture, appearances or parodies in other media, etc. Take Darth Vader or Albus Dumbledore as examples. I don't think "Ralph Phillips" or "Beaky Buzzard" are as notable. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  05:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Since there is no improvement of the characters to establish notability, I performed the mergers. The Burden of evidence falls on those who claim the characters are notable enough to have separated pages. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  03:04, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Where was the "merge"? You simply threw away a ton of content and turned all those pages into redirects. I'm reverting. -- Ja Ga  talk 05:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm done. I don't have a problem with an actual merge into the List article, but if that is decided upon, content should be lifted from the articles and placed in the list article. -- Ja Ga  talk 06:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW I'd say Nasty Canasta has appeared in enough shorts to merit keeping his own article. -- Ja Ga  talk 06:04, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

So, regarding JaGa's concerns, I have performed actual mergers. I placed almost all content from every article merged. Sylvester Jr. remained in his father's article, while Nasty Canasta remains as a separated article. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  23:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

How come Junyer Bear has a seperate article besides the existence of The Three Bears article? I think that article is extra don't you agree? It's not like Junyer Bear has ever been featured without Papa and Mama bears. And anyway that article repeats a lot of what the latter contains. If there's no doubt about the matter, removal of the article would be space conserving. Deltasim (talk) 09:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

There, the Junyer Bear article has been removed. No complaints I hope Deltasim (talk) 13:05, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Support Clyde Rabbit - Stumbled upon that one from Book:Fictional rabbits. Haven't looked at the other ones.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  07:11, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

In various Merrie Melodies there are two recurring characters which are a golden boxer dog with brown ears and white paws and white puppy with black patches. I don't know if they have names, but they are commonly called The Two Curious Puppies. They appear in five shorts, which definitely makes them notable enough for an individual article to be created if anyone is interested. The shorts they appear are: "Dog Gone Modern" (1939), "The Curious Puppy" (1939), "Stage Fright" (1940), "Dog Tired" (1942) and "Snow Time for Comedy" (1941 re-released 1952). Deltasim (talk) 20:30, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

err...
I dunno what happened here, but the entire body of material of Beaky Buzzard had been destroyed... whether that applies to other articles on the above list I don't know, but I hope not (I'll look into it presently). I guess what might have happened is the material was moved from Mr Buzzard's article over to here, then at some other time deleted from this article... or something. At any rate it was gone until I recovered it.

On the procedural side, I don't see sufficient discussion for the (de facto) deletion of an entire article (or articles). For that you'd want an AfD I think. Possibly an RfC.... I think AfD's the correct venue tho.

On the merits, I have only looked at Beaky Buzzard (so far) but no, I don't think that "vast coverage" is required for an article to exist... if it is, we got hella articles that need to go. We have to be reasonable here. Yes you are going to have fewer good scholarly references for minor popular culture entities than you are going to have for, I don't know, On The Origin of Species or whatever, but you have to adjust for that... Don Markenstein's Toonpedia is a a somewhat scholarly (in the pop culture sense) and quite reliable source, and it has an entry for Beaky Buzzard. I mean, jeez, we have an article on The Bashful Buzzard which is just one of Mr Buzzard's appearances, and to have the link in "...which featured Beaky Buzzard..." go nowhere... how does that help the reader? We do not have to worry about the expense of printing, people. Whether Mr Buzzard is an outlier or the only instance where this occurred I don't yet know, but I hope so. Herostratus (talk) 01:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * OK fine, Beaky Buzzard is clearly a big deal IMO. What about Willoughby the Dog. Here's a guy who had a very short career, who didn't even have a cameo in Space Jam and so on. His article is only a few sentences. (And the refs are bad, but there are better refs, which I guess I'll add in later on). He doesn't have his own IMDb page. And so on. What about him?


 * Well, his article has only a few sentences, but he co-starred in Of Fox and Hounds and The Heckling Hare which are larger articles; he had a short appearance in Nutty News and is mentioned in that article too. Add that together and there's a fair amount of material here on this particular dog.


 * How does it help the reader to throw much of this away, given that we don't have to worry about printing expenses? Each article does add some overhead cost -- vandalism patrol and so forth -- but not that much. Our mission is to make the internet not suck. In order to get all this info on Willoughby I had to look stuff up and go to various sites and so forth. How does it make the internet not suck to make other people go thru that if the happen to be interested in the subject? I don't get it. I restored the article. Take it AfD if you dislike it so much and good luck with that. I expect to restore all of these articles and no, I'm not going to curate and source them all (as I've done for Beaky and Willoughby); I have other interests. That doesn't mean the article are and will always be a detriment to the Wikipedia. Herostratus (talk) 22:57, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * After restoring and doing a bit of curating on The Three Bears (Looney Tunes), my guess is that many of these articles should go thru AfD before being deleted. So I'm going to restore them all. I've done my bit for fixing them, it's not my area of concentration, but I'm sure that many could be fixed up to make proper articles; those that aren't, anyone may recast them as redirects if they're incontrovertibly worthless and always will be, otherwise to AfD. Herostratus (talk) 01:45, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Comic characters never seen in animation
There are certain Looney Tune recurring characters from Dell comics that have not been shown in animation. Only Honey Bunny so far is listed. I think there should be a paragraph on the notable Cicero Pig, Porky's nephew and a paragraph on The Swamp Witch, Bugs Bunny's nemesis.

Deltasim (talk) 11:41, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I would love to help. I added Cicero Pig to the page, and I will probablyy update him again later. I will add The Swamp Witch to the page, but I need some information first.

Okay. I did it. I updated Cicero Pig and I added Cliffy the Clown and Little Beaver to the page. Now I just need to add The Swamp Witch, who I'm still looking information about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.174.23 (talk) 15:51, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Merger proposal [for Lola Bunny]
None of the reverts have given any real reason as to why the article should stay. It does not meet WP:N, WP:GNG, and no references, so it completely and utterly fails WP:V. It also does not meet WP:NOR. Contains no character reception and it seems WP:IINFO - ish. Before people start blindly opposing please not that please follow and specify a Wikipedia policy. So Lola Bunny still should be redirected, and hopefully people will listen this time. Thanks, Cyan  Gardevoir  (used EDIT!) 22:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose I've added multiple references for the article. It was not difficult at all to find them. There are also enough reviews of Space Jam, the film in which the character was introduced, to write a critical reception section for anyone who's interested in doing so. As a fictional animated character, she is reasonably notable, and was a featured character in a full-length animated film as well as two Looney Toons television series and DC comic books, all of which can be verified. There are articles on this character in 9 other Wikipedias and the article here has many incoming links. Incidentally, a merger is exactly that. The information is preserved and added to another article, not what you have been repeatedly doing—simply blanking articles you don't approve of and redirecting them. That is basically deletion with no discussion whatsoever, and I might add, no attempt whatsoever to improve the articles or find references for them. Voceditenore (talk) 15:38, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Claude Cat and Frisky Puppy
The article asserts that Claude is fearful of frisky due to cowardice, but this is flat-out wrong. He's not afraid of Frisky at all, who never so much scares him as startles him. His reaction is more of a high-strung cat than a cowardly one. 192.91.173.34 (talk) 00:10, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * He actually attempts to kill Frisky several times out of anger and frustration. The_Iconoclast (talk) 05:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Zachary
Where is Zachary. He frist appeared in the lonny tunes show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 12:27, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 * If this is who you mean, he's only appeared on one episode. Trivialist (talk) 21:17, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes
Yes that who I mean by Zachary — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 12:37, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

"...And furthermore...!"
Were the dopey cat and the Jimmy Durante cat from "A Gruesome Twosome" ever named? I believe this was the only appearance for the pair. What a revoltin' development! --The_Iconoclast (talk) 05:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Un named re occurring robot
There was a character that re occurred in several cartoons, with Porky Pig, Sylvester, Daffy and Bugs. It was a pin headed robot, that was often in automated houses.

It has been left out ... what was its name and what was the music that was played when automation took over, usually resulting in Sylvester and Porky getting kicked out of the door. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.31.213.2 (talk) 21:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Hubie and Bertie
I saw the Dec. 22 merge proposal by User:DJ Autagirl suggesting that the fairly substantial Hubie and Bertie article (over 850 words) be merged into a list article. On the face of it, I'm not sure why this was even proposed, and the editor proposing it did not even begin a merge discussion in a month-and-a-half. So, oppose the merge. --Tenebrae (talk) 06:36, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Closing the merge proposal, given no support for it. Klbrain (talk) 23:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

"Count Blood Count" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Count Blood Count. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Ad Orientem (talk) 04:58, 29 October 2019 (UTC)