Talk:List of Ouran High School Host Club characters

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Honey is very similar to Momiji from fruits basket. Tamaki is similar to yuki. the twins are like kyo. you should walch fruits basket--Natiis13 (talk) 00:34, 18 December 2012 (UTC)Natalia

Trivia
Not a whole lot under "trivia" has to do with the characters. I suggest moving it back to the main Ouran page.--Spyderchan 01:28, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Added info
Added some information in Kyoya, Hunny, and Renge section. Chiisa 3:52, 19 September 2006
 * I reverted your additions due to removing pertinant information and for having sub-par understanding of written English. -- (  十八  |   talk  ) 08:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I added information on Shigenori Yamazaki and Tomomi Watanabe. Is that ok?Mooncrest 20:13, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I added pictures of the Zuka club members from fansub screencaptures. I hope that's ok...--Einmyria 17:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Changed Name
Changing "Hunny" to Honey. In Japanese version, Mitsukuni Haninozuka's nickname is Honey, not Hunny. VIZ wanted to make it cuter, so they changed it into Hunny. Chiisa 3.44, 22 September 2006
 * In that case... Wikipedia shall still use Hunny! See, this is the English Wikipedia. Of course, Chiisa, "Honey" won't be forgotten, so... - By the way, I bet the Singaporean volumes also use Hunny. WhisperToMe 14:37, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Then I changed all "Honey"s into Hunny. But mitsu translates into honey. That's where Mitsukuni get that "Honey" nickname. I don't know about Singaporean version, but Indonesian version uses "Honey".
 * Actually, he gets the "Hani" nickname from his surname Haninozuka just as Mori gets it from his surname Morinozuka. It's just a coincidence (though most likely intentional) that the first part of his given name Mitsu translates to "Honey" in English. -- (  十八  |   talk  ) 00:11, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Singapore uses Honey Yin (talk) 11:41, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Added some info about honey —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)


 * I changed most of the "Honey"'s to "Hunny". Because that is the official MANGA name.Moocowsrule (talk) 20:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)moocowsrule


 * Good luck keeping them from getting changed back ... -- we really need to add a note to his name, detailing the different spellings used, similar to Souoh et cet. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:43, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I really think they should all just stick to Viz Media spelling. (Where have I heard this before?) It is the English Wikipedia. But WP:MOS-AM says the most common known name; I have no idea what those are.


 * By why specifically the Viz spelling, when there's three other English versions available, including the Chuang Yi manga, which sometimes disagree? —Quasirandom (talk) 21:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ...On what names do they disagree? ~ Itz  just  drama?  22:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Check the entries for Tamaki and Kyoya, which list the variations. And that's without checking what the differences are for Hani/Hunny/Honey, and without looking at the licensed anime. —Quasirandom (talk) 03:11, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You're right; this doesn't really need too much argument. Never mind about Viz. ~ Itz  just  drama?  03:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:MOS-AM has no power over WP:MOS-JP. わwa  らra  うu  Smile! 05:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)moocowsrule

I reverted all remaining instances of "Hunny" to "Honey" and added a note that the Viz manga calls him "Hunny". Since no other english release of the property calls him that and this was the only Ouran page to use "Hunny", it's silly to call him "Hunny" here. The page itself kept using "Honey" in pretty much every part except for the character himself. Obviously most editors know him as Honey too, thus its the most commonly accepted English name. Rebochan (talk) 15:10, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Éclair Tonnerre
Éclair played a pretty signifigant role in the last two episodes, so I think that she should be added to this page. She may be mentioned on the main page, but I think that she has earned something on this page as well. Bagpipeturtle 21:18, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Paragraphed Éclair Tonnerre to increase clarity. --NeonRoses 18:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Added some loli, shota, hentai and yuri there. HAVE FUN. =) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

I think that some information on Renge should be added as I count her as playing quite an important role in some episodes. I think that she has earned her place on the page by bieng in this series.ChocolateBeans 16:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


 * ...And you'll find that she does indeed have a place in the article, at the top of the 'supporting characters' section. If you feel there is specific information that should be added, by all means, be bold! ^.^ Lithiumflower 17:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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Proposed merge with Kaoru Hitachiin
In March 2007 a merge tag was added to this article proposing that Kaoru Hitachiin be merged into it. In the absence of any further debate I have removed the tag because:
 * Reviewing the Kaoru page and several similar ones, I can see nothing different about Kaoru Hitachiin that would justify a merge of that and not all of the others. The merge proposal was specifically for the Kaoru page, but the proposer did not explain why or give any justification for the merge.
 * Each major character in the series has a summary here and their own article as their main page. The separate articles are all similar in layout and detail - as they currently stand this is too much information to be merged back into this page.
 * There may be an argument that some of the detail in the separate character pages is not notable and that they could all be shortened then merged back here. However this is an entirely separate proposal which has not (to my knowledge) been put forward by anyone. If someone wants to propose this, be my guest but it does not relate to the specific merge proposal from last year.

Given no one has commented on the merge proposal in 12 months I assume removing the tag is uncontroversial. Opposing views are welcome. Euryalus (talk) 23:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism?
Someone put this in the hitachin article "They love puppies and cute animals in general, as seen in Chapter 17.

The twins have also been strongly linked to Fred and George Weasley from the Harry Potter series due to the likeness in looks and personalities."

I don't think this information is correct or needed in the article.Mooncrest (talk) 20:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Just in case you want to know user: 220.239.181.127 added the harry potter part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooncrest (talk • contribs) 20:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Kyouya/Kyoya
Considering the fact that the last entry regarding this character's name was in 2008 and it's now nearly 2014, I think it's time to reconsider the spelling. The article, itself, holds no real authority because this is Wikipedia, not Bisco Hatori's sworn statement. If someone disagrees with me, that's fine. Let's talk about it. I am, however, changing the spelling to Kyoya Ootori. The statement about the pronunciation changing is a red herring since anyone who knows the series, knows how it's pronounced. Therefore, unless there's a huge uproar or someone can actually tell me when the supposed "vote" took place and how many votes were cast for each version, I'm going with Kyoya Ootori. (Dec 2013) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luxartisan (talk • contribs) 13:30, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

A note for his entry here says don't change the spelling to Kyoya here without discussing it. I note that his article uses Kyouya, with Kyoya being a redirect. Can we please get some consistancy here? Frankly, I don't care which, but I've been using Kyouya because of the article (which ought to be the authoritative source), resulting in even more mixed spellings. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:45, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Personally I'd prefer "Kyouya", and for me, I've seen more "Kyouya" than "Kyoya". Perhaps we can have a vote or something about this to reach a consensus - Kyouya Ootori? Kyoya Ohtori? Kyoya Otori? (My vote for the current name - Kyouya Ootori) Oh, this applies to Tamaki Suou/Suoh too (once again, I'm more familiar with "Suou"). So once we've reached a consensus, we can start editing the other related articles and have them fixed to one type of spelling for uniformity. — Yurei - egg  tart  03:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, lets do it. I am also more familiar with the Kyouya.  Its mainly the fact that leaving out the u will cause a different pronunciation of it (short o when without u and long o when with the u).  Similar to a name such as Youko (Inukami!) - without the u, just sounds weird and different from the actual. --Highwind888, the Fuko Master (talk) 05:51, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, what we should use is the spelling in the official translations. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:54, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * When you say "official" translation, which do you mean? See Kyouya Ootori: Kyouya Ohtori (VIZ Media romanization)? Kyoya Ootori (Chuang Yi romanization)? Kyoya Otori (Nippon Television romanization)? Aha I don't know anymore :S — Yurei - egg  tart  18:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's the thing. :-D It should be one of the manga editions, because the anime is a derivative version and so has less authority. I suspect we need to ask for advice at WT:MOS-JA, as they're the experts on this. —Quasirandom (talk) 18:21, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, fear not. See WP:MOS-JA rule #1. We are to use Kyōya Ō o tori, not anything else lol. Talk about confusion... Anyway just in case I get it wrong, I won't edit the names until any of you agree to this (or you guys can do the job, I don't mind at all). — Yurei - egg  tart  14:41, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Um, not quite: that would make it Kyōya Ōtori. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

BTW: Talk:Ouran High School Host Club. (And around we go again...) —Quasirandom (talk) 03:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Stupid question: what's the FUNmation romanization? —Quasirandom (talk) 00:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Perhaps it's a really stupid question but I really don't know lol... And uh, yeah my bad, "Ōotori" was a typo. Back to the topic, shouldn't we be using "ō"/"ū" according to WP:MOS-JA rule #1? We can/should apply this rule to the discussion in Talk:Ouran High School Host Clubtoo. — Yurei - egg  tart  18:33, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup
BTW, assuming this article survives the AfD, I plan to start cleaning up the character listings, taking List of Fruits Basket characters as my model for formatting. Including, if that's the concensus of the AfD, merges of the character articles. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * In preparation for this, does anyone have any sense of what distinction is being made between "supporting" and "minor" characters? (I'm thinking of reorganizing the list into Host Club members, Host Club customers, Black Magic Club members, possibly the Zuka Club members, and Others.) —Quasirandom (talk) 16:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Seeing no comments, I'm going to go ahead and reorganize the page along those parenthetical lines. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:24, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Heigh-hough -- so the list survived but the characters didn't. Time to start cleaning up. Full disclosure: while I like the manga, I only have the first six volumes at hand and haven't read the rest for over a year, and I've seen only a couple espiodes of the anime. This means I may, in my misrememberence, mangle a few things -- if I do, please step in and correct me. Also, I may need some assistance when it comes to references -- where did that happen? sorts of things; any help with that appreciated. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, this article and related articles need to be cleaned.
 * It needs a lot of sources and references, I think the character profiles can definitely be update, and just the whole thing in general can be update. I'll start working in a bit.Hyakurei (talk) 22:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Umehito Nekozawa Berezenoff
Has it been revealed that it is in fact Beelzenef in the Anime, or is it just a translation by fansubbers?Moocowsrule (talk) 01:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule

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 * Taken care of. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:48, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

General Cleanup
I plan to get to some cleaning up here, but I don't see the need for the nine extra pictures. I realize they're semi-important characters. However, they don't appear too often. Eclair especially, she's anime-only. If you feel there's a need for a picture of the Zuka Club, a group shot would be better, like how there's one for the Host Club. Umehito probably doesn't need a picture either. I guess while I'm at it, the sections for Renge, Umehito, and Kasanoda are way too long. And the whole thing seems to need an update. And I feel it's pretty in-universe. Itz just  drama?  17:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Can't say I disagree with those in the slightest. Have a ball. I started working on this and got distracted -- if you need any help, I can pitch in. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Seems this article is still lacking. I'll be joining in the cleanup effort as well. StryyderG (talk) 23:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Lobelia pictures
I removed the pictures for the Lobelia girls because they were fansubbed. Wikipedia isn't the place for fan stuff, it's an encyclopedia, and should be more official than fansubs. If anyone disagrees, they should find a better picture that DOESN'T have fansubs in them. And also the Lobelia girls aren't THAT important that they require pictures. I'd say considering the notability of Ouran, that the only people requiring pictures are the main characters and possibly secondary characters.Moocowsrule (talk) 02:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)mooocowsrule

Hikaru and Kaoru reference Castor and Pollux?
I was looking up the meanings of the names "Castor" and "Pollux" on www.behindthename.com and I found that they mean "shining" and "very sweet" respectively. Since Hikaru and Kaoru mean "shining" and "sweet smelling" respectively, I absolutely cannot believe that's a coincidence. Unfortunately, I can't find any sources at all that mention it, so as of now it's just original research. I'll leave this here if anyone thinks they can find a source to verify it.Ziiv (talk) 05:24, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Copy-editing
I have finished copy-editing the article, as requested at WP:ANIME/CLEANUP. As far as content goes, however, there is still room for improvement. As someone with no knowledge of Ouran High, I would like to leave suggestions on a few issues that came to my attention which I believe should be addressed:


 * the whole article should be looked over and possibly rewritten by someone who knows Ouran High to check for inacuracies (several sentences were ambiguous, even contradictory)
 * the article needs additional references (often there are claims about the author's intentions, but no sources to verify them)
 * the lead needs to be expanded, possibly moving the info currently under "Background" there and replacing that section with a "Creation and conception" one
 * "Reception" section could be expanded (there are already several sources listed at the article which can help with this)
 * to further address the matter of in-universe style and reduce the size of the TOC, consider reorganizing the article and grouping characters with a protagonist/antagonist-oriented structure in mind (see List of Naruto characters for reference).

I hope you feel that these edits have contributed to the improvement of the article. Thank you for visiting WP:ANIME/CLEANUP.

Cyn starchaser ( talk ) 15:53, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Hitachīn or Hitachi'in
To my somewhat limited knowledge, 常陸院 is read Hitachi'in and not Hitachīn, since the first i belongs to 陸 while the second to 院, meaning that it isn't elongated. Can anyone, with greater knowledge of Japanese, please confirm or refute this claim? --Hecko (talk) 22:24, 14 June 2012 (UTC)