Talk:List of Queens neighborhoods

Classification of Queens neighborhoods
I think we sould classify Queens neighborhoods by the postal town (ie Long Island City, Jamaica, Flushing, and Far Rockawa) they belong too. That's why I put a template. I don't do it myself because I know nothing about it, I'm not a New Yorker.--Revas 7 July 2005 16:02 (UTC)

I think "postal towns" are pretty useless, as they have no real bearing on the neighborhoods in Queens. For example, the Flushing postal town covers a vastly larger area than Flushing, and many areas that are nothing like Flushing at all (Jackson Heights? Woodside? Maspeth? They might as well be Brooklyn.) In addition, I think such a method of classification would just confuse people.


 * Federal legislation introduced by Cong. Gary Ackerman was passed in response to years of constituents complaints that the imposition of groups of postal zones as "cities/towns" by the USPS was unnecessary and removed the identity of neighborhoods. Furthermore, the postal town names never reflected the pre-1898 political affiliation of these neighborhoods, for example Woodside was formerly part of the town of Newtown and not the town of Flushing.


 * Exactly. The "postal towns" simply do not correspond to accurate neighborhood boundaries. In no way, shape, or form is Woodside part of Flushing, nor is there basis for grouping into the same category as a neighborhood like Whitestone which is so different. Also, putting Astoria in a separate postal town from Woodside makes no sense as the neighborhoods are more similar to each other than Woodside is to Whitestone. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wizard1022 (talk &bull; contribs).


 * If I can find an official statement on the status of the former postal towns, I will update this article and the Queens article. patsw 20:47, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Review
I spent some time this evening with the Encyclopedia of New York City (Jackson, 1995) and came up with the following for discussion here before I apply the updates.

Contemplating deletion

 * Bowne Park (a park, not a neighborhood name)
 * New Howard Beach
 * Parkside
 * Rockaway Point
 * Utopia (the name of a neighborhood never built)
 * Westmoreland

Editing

 * Bowery Bay => Bowery Bay Beach
 * Forest Hills Gardens (housing development)
 * Ramblersville (to 1916, now Howard Beach)
 * Sunnyside Gardens (housing development)
 * Trainsmeadow (to 1915, now Jackson Heights)

Add
patsw 04:13, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Winfield
 * Whitepot (to 1910, now Rego Park and Forest Hills)
 * Oakland Gardens (next to Bayside)

Dropping the USPS postal "cities" groupings
The USPS "cities" grouping are no longer in effect. They are obsolete. It is inaccurate to retain them in the article. patsw 04:16, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Neighborhoods
Utopia and Rockaway Point is a neighborhood in Queens. If you look at the NYC Department of City Planning website, it shows both Utopia and Rockaway Point in there on the Community Board map and on the Ambassador Yellow Pages for New York City. Parkside is a neighborhood in Queens because if you look up the zipcode 11375, It shows Parkside as not acceptable and that if you search for maps of neighborhoodso of Queens, you might find Parkside in there, just like I did. Westmoreland and New Howard Beach aren't neighborhoods of Queens since there isn't any reference to it nor any map but there is a neighborhood called Old Howard Beach in Queens. CrnaGora 00:12, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Rockaway Point is not in the profile for Queens Community Planning Board 14


 * Utopia does not exist:
 * Utopia Playground takes its name from a housing development in Queens that was never built.


 * Parkside, if it really were a neighborhood would be one in Brooklyn...


 * Zip code 11375, when one makes the official inquiry returns FOREST HILLS, NY, (and PARKSIDE, NY not acceptable) patsw 02:16, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Rockaway Point appears on some maps -- north and east of Breezy Point. So I will retain it even though the local Community Planning Board doesn't list it. patsw 20:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The Office of the Queens Borough President includes Bowne Park and Utopia on their map of Queens' neighborhoods. -Chops79 20:34, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * It would be interesting to go into the areas so marked on the map and ask people who live there "What neighborhood is this?" or "¿Qué vecindad es ésta?" Would the answers be "Bowne Park" and "Utopia"? patsw 02:19, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Parson's Beach
Where is this neighborhood and do the people who live there call it "Parson's Beach"? patsw 21:52, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Neighborhoods of Queens
Utopia is a neighborhood because if you check the Queens Community Board 8 Website, It shows Utopia as being a neighborhood of Queens, as well as Flushing Heights, Flushing Suburban, and Hillcrest Estates neighborhoods as being in Queens. In Queens Community Boards website, It shows, Garden Bay, Utopia, Cunningham Heights, Hilltop Village, Flushing South, East Flushing, and Baisley Park as being neighborhoods in Queens. CrnaGora 21:19, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Lost Neighborhoods?
From the New York Times

There is a lost neighborhood in Queens and, it turns out, it is most easily found via the parking lot of the International House of Pancakes on Rockaway Boulevard. There are no signs leading visitors to the area, which is called Meadowmere, patsw 22:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Neighborhood naming convention
In case anyone hadn't noticed, Communities strawpoll is voting on a uniform naming convention for all neighborhoods of U.S. cities. The proposition currently leading by a wide margin would apparently entail renaming most New York City neighborhood articles to something like neighborhood, New York, New York. older ≠ wiser 19:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Map for Queens neighborhoods
I found this map.

http://www.queenslibrary.org/gallery/past_exhibits/burgh/map.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrMafiaNostra (talk • contribs) 16:08, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Speaking of which, I'm working on a neighborhoods map like the one I made for Brooklyn. Our article says, "Unlike neighborhoods in the other four boroughs, some Queens neighborhood names are used as the town name in postal addresses." Does that mean that I should use the zip code boundaries for the neighborhoods?  Otherwise, I'll wind up approximating/guessing the exact street boundaries, looking at maps like the one linked above.  --Peter Talk 00:51, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't bother. I don't think it's a postal code based thing, but simply a weird adressing thing (i.e. You'd say Bayside even though I'm pretty sure that doesn't have it's own postal code).  Just do it in an organic way.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.237.90.50 (talk) 03:17, 12 April 2010 (UTC)   --Rastapoulous


 * I found a map of Queens on Wiki travel see -- LibertyZip (talk) 01:13, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Neighborhoods are not an official designation
Neighborhoods in the city of New York are not an official designation. As noted on the Dept of City Planning's website : "Disclaimer: Neighborhood names are not officially designated. " What this means is that "neighborhoods" do not have defined borders, or even official names. The only borders that can possibly be attributed to neighborhoods are those of neighborhoods that existed as villages pre 1898 and were then incorporated into the Borough along with the respective Towns. It might be an idea to list or sort by the pre-1898 township as well as the pre-1998 postal "city" along with the the community board(s). Otherwise there seems to be a randomness to this page. For example, why is Electchester listed as part of Flushing, but Pomonok not? I think it is questionable that either one of these is a "neighborhood" in its own right any more than any other coop or public housing development is called neighborhood. Also it is possible that ZIP codes cross Community Boards, and that "neighborhoods" contain multiple ZIP codes, and community boards straddle the old township borders, and that neighborhoods are represented by one or more civic associations. One should take note that the Manhattan neighborhoods listings state "Neighborhood names and boundaries are not officially defined. They may vary or change from time to time due to demographic and economic variables." One could also see on the map of Manhattan that neighborhoods can overlap and this happens in Queens as well. What doesn't overlap, are designations such as school districts, precincts, ZIP Codes, the original townships and villages, even civic associations. I venture to say it is a combination of all of these and more that make up what are called "neighborhoods" today. --69.86.207.199 (talk) 12:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * All true, but your point is... what? Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Steinway missing from article
The neighborhood of Steinway is listed on the map (next to Astoria) but not mentioned at all in this article. 173.89.236.187 (talk) 05:56, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I believe that the neighborhood of "Steinway" was more an historical one, and that nowadays it would generally be called "Ditmars" or "Ditmars Steinway"; it would also be somewhat smaller than it was, with Astoria encroaching on its territory. No real source for this, though. BMK (talk) 06:18, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, Steinway, Ditmars, etc. is now part of Astoria. Whatever it's called, it's not its own neighborhood, but a subsection. The map doesn't indicate subsections as part of neighborhoods; for example, Malba and Beechhurst are part of Whitestone, but this is not shown here. Epic Genius (talk) 20:23, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

So mention that it's part of another neighborhood. Not mentioning it at all in the article, when it's clearly labeled on the map, is simply confusing to our users around the world. 173.89.236.187 (talk) 02:46, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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Clearview, Queens is missing
The Clearview neighborhood seems to be ignored for some reason, especially on our official map. Google maps recognizes it though, and unlike Wikipedia's official Queens Neighborhood Map, it doesn't make Bay Terrace and Fort Totten part of Little Neck, Queens. ---User:DanTD (talk) 14:20, 6 August 2019 (UTC)