Talk:List of Transformers animated series

Character names
"Names for characters were often different between the Japanse release and the Western release. For example, Optimus Prime is called Convoy in Japan. This is why you will often see different names referring to the same character/planet/race etc." I'm not quite sure about it. It seems to me that Convoy and Optimus Prime were different characters...

"Megatron is now a tank, due to some Toy marketing laws. This trend will stay. "

-- what was he before? i'd like more of an explanation about these laws, too.


 * He was originally a realistic looking handgun. But in this day and age there has been an outcry against realistic guns (they can be confused for the real thing) and there are some laws against them. So he became a tank instead. Timrollpickering 18:02, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Convoy and Optimus Prime are the same character, like it says. you might be thinking of Ginrai--24.222.239.180 19:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Carbombya
Hi, could somoeone familiar with the transformers universe categories this article Carbombya, thanks --nixie 01:49, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Comics
The first subsection of the "comics" section is hopelessly mistitled. It gives the impression that the original G1 series only had 4 issues (as it was planned to). Only by reading the end of the last sentence of the last paragraph will you ever know that 95% of the comic even existed. The section should be rewritten to better reflect the plot of the rest of the comics. &mdash; J I P | Talk 17:38, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I've now edited it to mention the rest of the series too, but it's still a stub.   &mdash; J I P | Talk 04:14, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Check validity of edits by vandal
Could someone check the edits made by User:209.135.123.8 and revert if appropriate. –MT 18:11, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

There is some validity to adding Canada, as the show was made in Canada, but it was made for showing in North America and Europe. However, since it was licenced by an American company, it can be presumed the series was made for American audiances. I went ahead and changed it back, as well as changing references to the non-japanese series to "Western", as they were shown in the US, Canada, and Europe. –FortMaxT 19:12, 11 November 2005 (CST)

Original Transformers
Is it just me, or are there articles on every series of Transformers except for the first one? I'm sure I must have just missed it somehow ... - 211.28.82.103 07:44, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

I've changed the word 'races' to 'factions' in the description of the first season of Transformers. In TF:TM the narrator refers to ALL Transformers when he calls them "a unique race of transforming robots." I think it is more accurate to refer to Autobots and Decepticons as subgroups akin political groups or even nationalities within the Transformer race. - CPM


 * Transformers should be on "The List of Shows That Suck" --66.218.28.217 05:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree. --Yancyfry jr 22:43, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Article Separation?
I was wondering if you guys thought about splitting the different shows in to different articles. Which in turn would make it a lot smaller, and easier to navigate. Say G1 has its own article as well as the rest though, I noticed Beast Wars has its own already, then have this article as a general one that gives a less detailed overview of everything. Or things that do not fit in any of the show articles. This way also we can add more information and pictures with out having this particular main overview article go over its max amount of space. It is sort of like this, you would not have each individual character from one of the series have a full length biography on the main article of the show when you could just make a separate article for that particular character. I just wanted to ask what you guys thought before I, or if someone else wants to help, to start separating the main article's show information. Alus 23:33, 1 December, 2005 (UTC)

Article Merger
I agree with Alus. Either a merger or a seperation may be required. It seems that much of the information on this page is duplicated on the Transformers series page -- so much so that they appear to be almost the same article. Perhaps we should either merge the two (along with perhaps the Transformers Comic page) or differentiate more between them. For instance, the Transformers Universe page seems to be overly focused on the Television Series relative to the comic storyline.

Perhaps the Marvel Comics relative to the Marvel Comics Universe page is a more helpful guide to give a distinction?

Article Merger
I agree with Alus. I think that there should still be a list but with each of the series having there own seperate pages so that it doesn't have to be so much information lsited but be much clearer on seperate pages. All the information on TRANSFORMER SERIES should be placed on TRANSFORMER UNIVERSES as seperate section but without the descriptions of all the various series. The only problem with doing this might generate lots of stubs though????


 * Togts: 2006 Jan 9 16:22 (UTC)

Merger
Given that there are separate articles for Transformers (comics) and Transformers (toyline), how about renaming Transformers series as Transformers (cartoons) and using Transformers universes as a shortened index, merging any extra info it currently contains into the other three?

Although actually looking at those articles, the toylines one only goes up to RID, and only directly includes American toylines. At the moment, the sum of content across articles (and its layout) is significantly less useful than a decent fansite or set of links. Rather than attempt to classify everything Transformers, a 'by-year' approach may be less liable to leave sections with misleading gaps.

Denyer 23:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

On the Merger
Of corse, the problem in going by years that release years weren't the same in all markets. For instance, the US 1989 Micromasters were released in 1990 in Japan, but we could just use the Western release year as the orginization, and when the Japanese releases differ, for instance, in the 1990 sub-catagory, state that the 1989 micromasters were released in Japan, with a link to the 1989 sub-cat FortMax 20:0, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Organisation of index
This would be a main index page -- rather than sublink, you'd have a timeline pointing to main articles.

So, the timeline would include:

1984

'The Transformers' season one begins --> "The Transformers (animated series)" (US/Europe)

'Fight Super Robot Life' season one begins --> "The Transformers (animated series)" (Japan)

'The Transformers' first issue published --> "The Transformers (Marvel comic)" (US/Japan/Europe)

...

1987

'Transformers 2010' begins --> "The Transformers (animated series)" (Japan)

...

2005

'Galaxy Force' begins --> "Transformers: Galaxy Force (animated series)" (Japan)

'Cybertron' begins --> "Transformers: Cybertron (animated series)" (US)

'Beast Wars Returns' begins --> "Transformers: Beast Machines (animated series)" (Japan)

To my mind, that's the clearest way of making sure all content is accessible.

Denyer 08:13, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Re-Organisation of index
'Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers' (both the show and the toys) weren't out in Japan until 1985, which saw the release of the '84 and '85 US releases.

FortMax 01:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

SciFi Channel airing
I'm curious concerning when aired and which part of the series aired on Sci Fi as I have recently created the "Cartoon Quest" article that focuses on the block programming of animated shows in 1992-1995 that included the show in its line-up. DrWho42 01:10, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Found on Frenzy transformers, which used to, and now again, redirects here
Generation 1

In Transformers, frenzy like all of the transformers crashed landed on earth in the autobot ship the ark, After being awakenened a volcanic eruption frenzy and the other decepticons were rebuilt by teletrann 1. As soundwave is rumble, frenzy, laserbeak, buzzsaw and ravage's guardian, when soundwave was rebuilt as a tape player frenzy and his brothers where rebuilt as tapes which soundwave can activate at will. frenzy was the lesser known of the tapes, appearing now and then in certain scrennshots.

Personality

frenzy like his brother rumble is a meglomaniac that loves the sight of destruction and craves battle. frenzy, again like his brother lack intelligence and tend to point out the obvious, however due to these flaws they are loyal to soundwave and especially megatron.

marvel comics In the comic book series of transformers, frenzy is nearly destroyed by the newly built omega supreme and placed in cold storeage by rachet with thundercracker and a number of other decepticons.

target:2006

In target 2006 frenzy is reawakened in the ark with thundercracker, they both escape to the decepticon base where thay find a confused shockwave. but the three are displaced when hot rod, blurr and kup arrive from future.

g.i joe vs transformers

In g.i joe vs the transformers rumble is reprogramed to obey the pilot of soundwave. When the arms dealer destro purchases soundwave and the tape cassets ,he attacks a goverment research facility. Frenzy is shot through the head by the joe, sci-fi who along with the other joe's abushes destro. but despite they're efforts destro gets away withthe sps information.

Transformers: the movie

frenzy is breifly seen as the decepticons attack autobot city, as he is sent to desroy the autobot's conmunications equipment.

Title?
Should the title not be Transformers (series), in line with other articles and the manual of style?

EvocativeIntrigue TALK 20:52, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Headmasters split
Headmasters definitely needs it's own article (something I've been looong meaning to do but just... never have...) but that doesn't mean that it's entry on this page needs to be taken away. - Chris McFeely 22:28, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree! SSJ 5 12:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

American or Japanese?
I know that Transformers has american and japanese versions but which one was first? And please answer if you actually KNOW the answer and are not playing favorites between the two. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.160.239.46 (talk) 15:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC).

Transformers was originally an American creation to rebrand and market toys from several Japanese toy lines, Diaclone and Microman Microchange being the most important. The characters, concepts, and packaging were all created by Americans (Jim Shooter and Denny O'Neil came up with most of the concepts, Bob Budiansky (http://transfans.net/interviews_budiansky.php) wrote almost all of the tech specs for the original G1 toy series and came up with the majority of the characters, Floro Dery designed the cartoon versions of most of the characters with a little help from Japan(http://hometown.aol.com/kuest144/ and http://members.aol.com/tfencyc/interview_dery.html), and the various writers for the original cartoon were all freelancers or part of the Marvel Studios/Sunbow stable and worked in all kinds of American cartoons (Flint Dille also did GI Joe, David Wise also did TMNT, et cetera, see IMDB)). The show and American restyling of the action figures and subsequent original toys were exported back to Japan (and other countries) as Transformers a little bit later. Transformers is not anime.

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What if animated series was acknowledged in sequel?
If in the upcoming sequel(s) the animated series is revealed to have been based on the lives of the characters in the live action film would the community accept this or completely reject this idea?

For example, a scene would reveal Sam watching an episode of the animated series complaining of how his name was changed to Spike, or perhaps he comments on how they made Optimus Prime and bumblebee look too “cartoonish”, and how the writers of the animated series changed Megatron’s alternate appearance to a handgun rather than a Cybertronian jet because focus groups found the latter to be unappealing to children.

Would this be seen as an easy escape for the production staff and crucified? Or, perhaps, could the community accept this explanation of the differences between the two? --UseLongRangeSight 23:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

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Some major problems
Hopefully this will be seen and acted upon. The page seems to have two major problems at the moment. One is the sudden random list in the middle of the Beast Machines section that simply lists every Transformers series, the other is Transformers: Unlimited. Someone seems to have added this to this page and a number of other Transformers pages (such as Bumblebee). No official show or branding exits under the Transformers: Unlimited, no plans for Transformers: Unlimited have been given and the only thing that appears when one searches for Transformers: Unlimited in Google is a fanmade series on YouTube.--210.56.88.112 (talk) 15:39, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

NPOV statement in lead
Although the comic outlived the animated series by a number of years, it was the animated series that truly captured the hearts and minds of children worldwide more so than any other piece of Transformers media from its twenty-five year history.

Do we have a source for this? Sounds like it was written by a fanboy (or fangirl I guess).-- Brainy J  ~ ✿ ~ ( talk ) 18:45, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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Some of these are not television series but web series, would it not make more sense to move the page to List of Transformers animated series?★Trekker (talk) 10:37, 13 April 2019 (UTC)


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Colours in tables
Here is an example table from the article:

Why do we have these coloured blocks in the tables? The colours are not being used for anything. J I P &#124; Talk 19:31, 5 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I agree. They could be better used to convey the US and JP only series, or, better portray which exist in the same "continuity". 2A00:23C6:B409:9301:1860:1711:B7A0:4954 (talk) 11:48, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Missing several animated series
If Cyber Missions is here, countless other minor series should be here too:
 * -Go-Bots, which is different from Challenge of the GoBots.
 * -Robotmasters, available on DVDs promoting the toyline of the same name.
 * -Transformers: Universe, an awful Flash animation.
 * -Transformers: Protal, a Russian Flash animation not made by Hasbro but licensed, which isn't too important, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
 * -Bumblebee's First Life on Earth, which retells events from Bumblebee (film) for kids. JohnStartop (talk) 18:03, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Japan-only shows should be separated and given their own article
There should really be two articles, or at least two lists: one for shows that were made in English or have been translated into English and aired in English-speaking countries, and a separate list for whatever the hell Japan has been doing. The Japanese-only shows might as well not exist or not "count" as far as readers of the English-language Wikipedia are concerned. 98.234.13.133 (talk) 06:42, 9 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I think this could be a good case for the animes getting a separate list, since not all the shows have been Japan anime-centric. If that's really the case, then these would be the animes, according to anidb.


 * Tatakae! Chou Robot Seimeitai Transformers: Scramble City Hatsudou Hen (1986)


 * Transformers: The Headmasters (1987)


 * Transformers: Choujin Master Force (1988)


 * Tatakae! Chou Robot Seimeitai Transformers Victory (1989)


 * Transformers Zone (1990)


 * Beast Wars Second Chou Seimeitai Transformers (1998)


 * Eiga Beast Wars Second Chou Seimeitai Transformers Lio Convoy Kikiippatsu! (1998)


 * Chou Seimeitai Transformers Beast Wars Neo	(1999)


 * Chou Seimeitai Transformers Beast Wars Metals: Convoy Daihenshin! (1999)


 * Transformers: Car Robots (2000)


 * Chou Robot Seimeitai Transformers Micron Densetsu (2003)


 * Transformers: Robot Masters (2004)


 * Transformers: SuperLink (2004)


 * Transformers: Galaxy Force (2005)


 * Sanjougattai Transformers Go! (2013)


 * Q Transformers: Kaette Kita Convoy no Nazo (2015)


 * Q Transformers: Saranaru Ninkimono e no Michi (2015)


 * Electricmastro (talk) 06:07, 28 April 2023 (UTC)