Talk:List of U.S. communities where English is not the majority language spoken at home

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Texas Towns[edit]

There are plenty more cities in Texas that have a Spanish majority, Laredo, McAllen, Poteet, Pharr, Edinburg, and Harlingen, among many others — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.189.109.8 (talk) 06:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple population figures from Wikidata[edit]

Population figures are taken from Wikidata using {{#statements}}. Unfortunately some places have multiple entries for population, and this function apparently cannot, or will not, pick one as the 'best'. For example Jeddito, Arizona has an unsourced figure of 1,853 dated 2010 (with no day or month) and a figure from the 2010 US Census (dated more precisely to 1 April) of 293. The latter is obviously better as it has sources, but nonetheless both are included here with no explanation, separated by a comma, making it look like the population is an absurd 1,853,293. Hairy Dude (talk) 06:09, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Title change? Data needs an updated source — badly[edit]

I understand that there may not be any data (nationwide, at least) more recent than the 2000 census upon which to base this article, but the fact remains that using 22-year-old data, especially for something that changes as rapidly as language does, is encroaching upon meaninglessness. So many of these language populations were already in rapid decline in 2000. Anecdotally, French is absolutely not spoken as the majority language in any town in Aroostook Co., Maine anymore; in 2000, it was spoken by seniors and understood largely by their children, the majority of the former having died in years intervening. That'd be 13 off this list right there. These populations have had more than time enough to turn majority-English when the majority of their French speakers were septuagenarians 22 years ago. Perhaps if this article were simply about communities with high levels of non-English speakers, it wouldn't be such a problem. But we have a list purporting to be of towns majority non-English speaking, when the current reality is that many (most, even) of the communities no longer are. If a town that barely made this list in 2000 — say, Hamlin, Maine — was only 55.56% francophone, and over half of its francophones have passed over the last 22 years… well, you do the maths.

I can't speak to any other linguistic communities, but in all likelihood we would add dozens — hundreds? — of majority-hispanophone towns to this list if it were up-to-date. It severely over-represents languages that are disappearing and equally troublingly under-represents languages that are spoken by immigrant populations which make up an ever-increasing portion of the American population, namely Spanish (but surely others in smaller towns as well).

At this point, these are essentially historical data, and needs to treated as such. I propose a change to the title: List of U.S. communities where English was not the majority language spoken at home in 2000, which would be more accurate in 2022. I understand that this is addressed in the very first sentence of the article, but that doesn't excuse a misleading title. If these were data from, say, 1900, it'd be patently obvious that the present tense isn't appropriate in the title. I'm making the case that, though less obvious, these data are now old enough that the present tense is no more appropriate. There is a finite length of years that rapidly-changing data are good for; in the context of these American linguistic data, that time has now passed. 12.153.230.173 (talk) 14:02, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]