Talk:List of United States Coast Guard enlisted ranks

E-1
The page for Seaman Recruit states that the Coast Guard has a one-stripe insignia for the rank, although the Navy does not. However, there is no insignia listed here. Which is correct? --Kevin W. 19:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * This page appears to be a rough copy of the Navy enlisted page, which would explain the lack of E-1 stripes. The coast guard does use a single stripe for seaman recruits.  Changed text, but don't have the time to make the images.   Mordien 06:46, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * A Seaman Recruit Rank isnginia does, in fact exist, but the rank itself is strictly a Basic Training rank (you're called that at boot camp) or as a disciplinary rank (upon graduiation from Cape May you're automatically promoted to Seaman/Fireman/Airman Aprentice). There would be no reason to actually get an E-1 rank insginia.

This is NOT a rate page
These are NOT rates; Rate is JOB. This is a RANK page; Paygrade, where you sit in the cain of command, whatever you want to call it. My RATE is Boatswain's Mate; MY RANK is Third Class. Why can't you people get a SIMPLE concept right? Next time ask someone who knows waht they're talking about to put pages together for you (or something, at least). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.246.120.108 (talk) 01:30, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I have corrected the BODY of the page but cannot correct the HEADING of the page It should read List of United States Coast Guard enlisted RANKS  not ratings. Someone please correct this major screw up! FCMullis — Preceding unsigned comment added by FCMullis (talk • contribs) 19:56, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

E1 - E3 Section
The links are wrong for some of them in the table. For example, Firman link went to Seaman page.


 * the links are not "wrong", per se. The editor of the seaman page wrote it in such a manner that those editors that do not do due dillagance will use the seaman rates instead of getting outside the hull classifications, there is a section of the seaman and seaman apprentice pages that mention the non-hull classes. The Following pages in Blue Also Exist, the Red Links need to be created. Seaman Recruit, Seaman Apprentice, Fireman Apprentice, Airman Apprentice, Seaman, Fireman, Airman, i am of the thought that Links are essential for key concepts (at least once per article) Redlinks are better than imprecise blue links and the Redlinks eventually to be filled, but there is also Notability to consider PerkinsC (talk) 13:17, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Fireman Apprentice Fireman
From List_of_United_States_Coast_Guard_ratings Fire_&_Safety_Specialist FF  This rating was disestablished by the Coast Guard in 1993 and were absorbed into the PS rating

Port_Security_Specialist PS Support of Department of Defense national-defense operations overseas as a member of a Naval Coastal Warfare Squadron, or a Coast Guard Port Security Unit. Work at a Sector to ensure the physical security of a major U.S. port, or be a member of a Maritime Safety and Security Team (MSST). MSSTs are capable of being deployed throughout the United States to provide heightened waterside and shoreside security in support of maritime homeland security operations.[6][9]

this appears to indicate List of United States Coast Guard enlisted ranks is in serious need of revision

PerkinsC (talk) 20:04, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Proper terminology
Major changes have been made to this article without any recent discussion. This concerns the rate vs. rank conversion in the title of the article and body of the article made on 6 September. The proper term that the Coast Guard (as well as the Navy) uses for enlisted pay grades is rate. The term "rate" is used in Coast Guard regulations and daily in communications to indicate a Coast Guardsman's pay grade as well as where they are in the chain of command. The term "rank" is used by the Coast Guard (as well as the Navy) to indicate an officer's pay grade and where they are in the chain of command. Enlisted have rate; officers have rank. This has been used historically for well over one hundred years.

There has been no discussion about this prior to the changes made to this article as to why the author of the recent change feels like this is important enough to change. I feel that a discussion is warranted before such a proposed change be made. I object. First, there was NO discussion. Second, the proposed change is just simply wrong...it misinforms the reader about the personnel structure of the Coast Guard. Third, it ignores the history of the Coast Guard; if a distinction needs to be made then explain it in the article; i.e. officers have "rank" and enlisted have "rate".

If I knew how to revert this unwarranted change, I would revert it. Unfortunately, I don't Have that knowledge and I fear that I would make a hash of any changes back to the original terminology. Cuprum17 (talk) 13:09, 6 September 2022 (UTC)