Talk:List of catastrophic collapses of broadcast masts and towers

This list has two parts. The second part has towers arranged by height. This second parts has many towers listed showing they were 'dismantled', which is not a catastrophic collapse in my mind. I copied this content from Radio masts and towers, but I suspect it is wrong. If these 'dismantled' masts and towers do not belong here, then they should be moved back to a new list in radio masts and towers named 'dismantled towers'. Hmains (talk) 19:10, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Two lists? Same information?
I havn't studied the lists in detail, but as far as i can see, the lists are the same, but sorted differently.

Shouldn't that be possible to fix with class="sortable" on the tables, and some minor fixes such as generalizing the height and date-column?

Or am I missing something in wikipedia editing policys about sortable tables, such as table length? pengi (talk) 12:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Since I have learned how to sort tables, I sorted both of them. They do not contain the same data.  Any suggestions now?   Hmains (talk) 04:27, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Removal or Omission of WTC tower mast
I'm curious as to why the tower that was on one of the World Trade Center towers in New York is not on this list (history states it was removed). The tower collapsed because the building it was on collapsed, does that not count as a catastrophic collapse? It did have radio and television stations on its mast, and there are other towers listed that have combined radio and television transmitters on them. So why the omission or removal? Tkirton (talk) 06:00, 26 June 2012 (UTC)Tkirton, 26 June 2012 06:00 UTC


 * Personally I agree with you, it should be included since it does qualify as a broadcast mast/tower and it did suffer a catastrophic collapse. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 17:54, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Article Renaming proposal
Since this article apparently includes not only radio but also television masts and towers I'd like to propose that this article be renamed List of catastrophic collapses of broadcast masts and towers. I'm putting this up for a discussion and if there is no objections I will proceed to make the change. Please provide your input and opinion. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 18:13, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorting
Kind of pointless having a date column that can be sorted and then use american time format 91.180.97.192 (talk) 22:55, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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The WAAY-TV tower collapse which happened in September of 2003 was caused by the tower crew rigging the lift line for a gin pole (an 8 ton structural device used to raise tower sections and antennas) near the base of the tower. The tractor for the pole was apparently obstructed and the improper rigging caused flex stress on the tower when the winch operator tried to raise it. The OSHA report is here: https://www.osha.gov/doc/engineering/2003_09.html -- Stephen Poole, a broadcast engineer in Alabama 23.120.4.78 (talk) 04:00, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

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Height accuracy
Extensive table revision to make "Sort by date" work.

I revised the main table to make "Sort by Height" work, including duplicating the "Grigoriopol Transmitter Moldova" entry since there were two distinct masts, with different heights, that collapsed.

Removed "By Height" table as it is now redundant, due to my edits.

Due to the thermal expansion of steel, a tower whose height is given as 518.16, will be 518.02 at -10 °C and will be 518.30 at 40 °C. This means we do not know the height of the tower to cm accuracy unless we are given the temperature. The last digit in 518.16 meters is one centimeter, which is too accurate for what this measurement. In fact the first decimal is a problem, because the ground may move that much due to gardening (I just put in 20 cm of mulch around my oak tree). So I deleted the decimals. Nick Beeson (talk) 00:29, 7 July 2018 (UTC)