Talk:List of contestants from the UK national selection for the Eurovision Song Contest

Your Country Needs You (2009)
Hey. At the moment I dislike the current elimination chart for 'Your Country Needs You (2009)'. I think it is far too big, some of rows are bigger than others and it should be much more symplified. My table is very similar to the tables used in the Idol related articles. It clearly points out the lowest vote recipients and who was eliminated. The use of the phrase 'Danger Zone' will confuse people when mine labels the contestants in the 'Danger Zone' as 'Btm 2' which they were. Ugly? no... Maybe the grey rows after the 'Eliminated' boxes look a bit ugly but we can get rid of them... Frazzler9 (talk) 16:01, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The current table is very easy to read which is facilitated by the fact that it is not jumbled up. Maybe you have a widescreen monitor which is clouding your judgment? Also your proposed color scheme is very bold. The current table also is consistent with that of the table used for the actual show and consistency for the show is what we are aiming for, not consistency between similar Idol shows. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 16:04, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Let me just revert your edit and try and make my table look more appealing Frazzler9 (talk) 16:09, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See! This looks like it can breathe now. Jumbled up? no... Consistant with the table used for the actual show? On the show they never showed an elimination table and there are no other elimination tables for competitions on this article Frazzler9 (talk) 16:15, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The current table looks pretty much identical to the original now if I am not mistaken. There was a copy of the table in the main article but it has been removed. Camaron | Chris (talk) 16:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Redundant
Is this list needed really? A lot of information is included in the main Song for Europe article, while the rest is contained within the individual years articles. Deletion or perhaps just strictly a list of artsists?--Tuzapicabit (talk) 07:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, I think this article should be deleted. Everything within it is summarised at United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest as well as at all the respective annual articles within, not to mention Eurovision: Your Country Needs You.  Everything on this article is just duplicated material.  , what do you think?  Should this be filed under D for delete?    Wes Mouse &#124;  chat  03:21, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

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What is the point?
Having questioned this a few years ago (see above), I have come back to this to find out that not only has this article not had any improvement but has actually got a lot worse. This is in no way a list article - and it certainly doesn't concern itself solely with the contestants (as in the article title). It has become a collection of repeated information with bizarre boxed sections. It includes everything from TV presenters, amount of points, finishing places and even chart information. How is that a list of contestants? It gets worse however as towards the end there is an indiscriminate section of trivia which has nothing to do with anything. The most recent addition being - which of these contestants were married (!) Where do we draw the line? How many contestants had red hair? Green eyes? Came from Birmingham? This goes on and gets worse. The trivia is also unreferenced needless to say. It looks as though some over zealous editors are just putting in whatever information comes into their heads. That's fine for your own personal website, but Wikipedia is not that.

The information presented here is already present in the yearly articles and should stay there, the title of each year's selection show is irrelevant as are the presenters etc. In fact, here the songs are listed first - isn't this supposed to be about the contestants not the songs? If this is supposed to be a list, it should look like one. As it stands it's messy and quite frankly, embarrassing. Taking one at random, here is what a list article usually looks like: List of female scientists in the 20th century.

I propose if this article should stay (and I think it's okay for it to be here) then it should be brought into line to something a bit more professional-looking and should focus a bit more on the actual title of the article.Tuzapicabit (talk) 09:26, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * What is the point of trying to help when you issue threats for doing so?12.219.195.21 (talk) 18:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I think the article serves quite a good point of reference. Perhaps it's just mistitled. It isn't a list. That's true. Maybe it should be renamed to make it more relevant. I am not in favour of deleting chunks wholesale.12.219.195.21 (talk) 17:41, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I moved the inappropriate background/trivia and the chart information to the main article page where it seems more fitting.12.219.195.21 (talk) 17:52, 2 March 2021 (UTC)