Talk:List of fatal accidents and incidents involving Royal Air Force aircraft from 1945

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As the combat losses are relatively low and experimental aircraft usually given military serials , why not include them?? A better approach might be to list all Military aircraft Losses (including FAA, AAC and RM aircraft) by decade.--Petebutt (talk) 23:53, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Petebutt Are there any rules governing the non-inclusion of such incidents? I know that it is written at the top of the article, but is that just someone's arbitrary interpretation of how it should be? I agree with you and two more recent events come to mind - the 2008 incident when a BAE worker's seat fell out of the aircraft and smashed his head on the tail fin and the 2005 Hercules shootdown incident in Iraq (which involved it being shot down by SAFIRE, not a missile or by an enemy air force). Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 12:17, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We still have a lot of accidents to add to this article but it is limited to Royal Air Force aircraft only, I have no idea what the BAe incident is about but doesnt appear to be related to the Royal Air Force although the 2008 Hercules incident was an RAF aircraft it could be considered a combat loss. MilborneOne (talk) 14:12, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MilborneOne Agreed on the entries are lacking. What I was asking was whether or not there was some over-arching rules covering this list? It fails WP:AIRCRASH but that is about articles and not lists. I was asking if it was just some arbitrary clause that some editor has decided upon but we could be BOLD and over-ride that provided that we are not infringing a rule.

The 2005 Hercules shootdown was the result of hand-held weapons fired oppurtunely at the Hercules as it was flying extremely low. This in itself meant it was worthy of an article. The 2007 BAe incident involved a BAe worker who was in the back seat of a Tornado GR4 flying from RAF Marham on a test flight before they handed it back to the RAF. The pilot rolled the aircraft and the back seat fell out of the canopy as it was not fitted and secured correctly. As there had not been an ejection, the bloke died when the tail fin smashed into his head. He and the seat plummeted to earth. The joy of all things (talk) 18:16, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I started the list as I thought the hundreds of RAF accidents in the 1950s would overload the military aircraft accident lists, it was by no means complete as I initially only entered the fatal accidents with ten or more killed just to start it off. They are loads of entries yet to be included which is why to keep it noteworthy it only list fatal accidents. The source I am using only goes up to 1999! and it was started in 1946 so that wartime events would not be included. I dont have a problem with combat losses as the RAF has not actually had that many compared with the many non-fatal accidents. It was not until 1958 that the deaths per year dropped to less than a 100 a year. I just keep adding more entries when I remember. I dont have a problem with any additions particularly since 1999 that involves RAF aircraft and it was fatal so that does cover your BAe incident. MilborneOne (talk) 18:57, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Totals[edit]

Does anyone have a source for total losses, particularly in the 1940s and 1950s? I remember reading that they were horrendous, but the article doesn't really give a flavour of the sheer numbers. A thread on PPRUNE, which gives the book Meteor Eject as a source, states that there 150 Gloster Meteor losses in 1952 alone. Terrible by modern standards but of course it was the early days of jet aviation. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 19:30, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

vulcan bomber[edit]

this list is missing AT LEAST 24 known vulcan crsahes.

92.63.114.40 (talk) 19:42, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It is still a work in progress - the first ones added had 10 or more fatalaties and it is just waiting for a few hundred more losses with less than 10 killed. MilborneOne (talk) 20:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]