Talk:List of knights grand cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Victoria

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Requested move 21 September 2017

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The result of the move request was: not moved - other contributors to the discussion have suggested Queen Victoria may be an exception, if they want to make a separate RM there, that's fine.  Dr Strauss   talk   14:47, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

– No reason why the title of King or Queen cannot or should not be included. --Nev&eacute;–selbert 00:48, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * List of Knights Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Victoria → List of Knights Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Queen Victoria
 * List of Knights Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Edward VII → List of Knights Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by King Edward VII
 * List of Knights Commander of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by George V → List of Knights Commander of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by King George V
 * List of knights and dames of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Edward VIII → List of knights and dames of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by King Edward VIII
 * List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by George VI → List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by George VI
 * List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Elizabeth II (1952–77) → List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Queen Elizabeth II (1952–1977)
 * List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Elizabeth II (1978–2002) → List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Queen Elizabeth II (1978–2002)
 * List of Knights and Dames Commander of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Elizabeth II (since 2003) → List of Knights and Dames Commander of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Queen Elizabeth II (since 2003)
 * Oppose all but possibly Victoria. No reason to include King or Queen, and yes there is a reason not to, see wp:concise. Possibly Victoria should stay as is too for consistency, I can argue that one both ways. It's borderline whether the word Queen adds anything there, IMO. Andrewa (talk) 05:16, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Andrewa. I don't see much value in the moves. Victoria is the only one that would make sense if you were going to move any, as the argicle itself is at Queen Victoria. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 10:47, 29 September 2017 (UTC)


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Requested move 22 December 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 09:49, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

– Making "knights" and "dames" lowercase seems like a fairly obvious move per MOS:JOBTITLES, but "Grand Cross" is tricky. Per my proposal, I have no problem rendering it lowercase as well. However, I can also understand the case for List of knights Grand Cross of the... and List of knights and dames Grand Cross of the..
 * List of Knights Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Victoria → List of knights grand cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Victoria
 * List of Knights Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Edward VII → List of knights grand cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Edward VII
 * List of Knights Grand Cross of the Royal Guelphic Order → List of knights grand cross of the Royal Guelphic Order
 * List of Knights Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by George V → List of knights grand cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by George V
 * List of Knights Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire → List of knights grand cross of the Order of the British Empire
 * List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Order of the Bath → List of knights and dames grand cross of the Order of the Bath
 * List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Order of St Michael and St George → List of knights and dames grand cross of the Order of St Michael and St George
 * List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Elizabeth II (1952–1977) → List of knights and dames grand cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Elizabeth II (1952–1977)
 * List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Elizabeth II (2003–2022) → List of knights and dames grand cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Elizabeth II (2003–2022)
 * List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by George VI → List of knights and dames grand cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by George VI
 * List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Elizabeth II (1978–2002) → List of knights and dames grand cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Elizabeth II (1978–2002)
 * List of Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Charles III → List of knights and dames grand cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Charles III

Open to either change per the community consensus. Woko Sapien (talk) 16:02, 22 December 2023 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support: Routine application of lowercase for plurals of titles per MOS:JOBTITLES. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:32, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Support: Routine application of lowercase for plurals of titles per MOS:JOBTITLES. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:22, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: I meant to include List of Dames Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire in this proposal too. Since there seems to be a burgeoning consensus here, I decided to move it to List of dames grand cross of the Order of the British Empire ahead of time. I can revert that if this request is somehow denied. --Woko Sapien (talk) 22:41, 28 December 2023 (UTC)