Talk:List of leaf vegetables

Rewrite
I've rewritten the page based on a larger database of plants that includes all of the plants that were on the list. Major differences are the formatting, and the incorporation of references to other major sources of information on plants. The list (and a bit of explanatory text) was computer generated from this database. Feel free to edit the page, even though it was computer generated. As the database is updated, if I generate an updated version, I'll use the standard WP "diff" to see what changes have been done manually in the interim, and incorporate them into the database.

If the community has strong feelings about the formatting, please voice them. I'm not at all wedded to the present format, and would be happy to change the generated text if there's a consensus that it should be changed. Waitak 14:44, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

"Disputed" warning
I think a stronger disclaimer such as this is in order for the time being. The list needs complete expert review; being more of a zoologist I can only note that if the vicious taste doesn't matter, yes you can eat tobacco leaves as a vegetable. Once. Because dead people don't eat leaf veggies anymore, tobacco or otherwise.

In a nutshell, this list seems to contain plants with edible leaves, plants which have leaves usable for other purposes, and plants which have edible non-leaf parts. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 16:58, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * As the article says, the list is derived from Cornucopia. If the list is that badly in error, perhaps we need to consider just deleting the whole thing. I don't have access to a paper copy of Cornucopia. Could somebody with access to a decent academic library take a look, and see whether the list is salvageable? Note that there are two editions, and we ought to be looking at the second (latest).


 * Dysmorodrepanis, thanks so much for all of the hard work. Waitak (talk) 18:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Do not delete

 * I think deleting the whole thing is too rash and radical. The best idea is not to delete the whole article, but to delete all the dubious leaves in this excessively long list, leaving only those which are well-known enough to qualify as edible leaves like cabbage, spinach and lettuce.Xufanc (talk) 23:47, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Plant families
May I suggest that the new version of this page include familial placement of species? Thanks. Wloveral (talk) 22:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

What is Needed
This article definitely needs columns for "Use" and "Safety" (and possibly "Part(s) Used"). It also needs an improved and complete list of common names, and reference links for all plants. Is there any mechanism by which this page can be moved to some kind of working location, rather than being deleted, so that a number of people can work on it over time? I'm going to try to pass this link on to as many people as I can who are interested in sustainable food production, alternative foodcrops, etc.  Heavenlyblue (talk) 21:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Cinnamon
I eat leaves all the time here in Taiwan. Jidanni (talk) 03:11, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Cinnamomum cassia Presl. 肉桂
 * Cinnamomum insulari-montanum Hayata 台灣肉桂

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Chaya
Just wanted to say that Chaya should be on the list. I wasn't sure how to add it, and didn't want to screw up the page. The plant is popular in mexico and has been since Mayan times, and the article is an orphan.72.78.181.146 (talk) 14:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Other plants
Plants to include are: temperate climate plants: synapsis alba, capsella bursa-pastoris, primula, taraxacum, cichorium intybus, rumex acetosa, rumex crispus, chenopodium bonus-henricus, chenopodium album, stellaria media, roripa nasturtium, chamaenerion angustifolium, myrrhis odorata, lamium, urtica, plantago, plantago coronopus, plantago major, typha, origanum, allium ursinum, borago officinalis, humulus, cirsiumsaxifraga, sanquisorba officinalis, polygonum persicaria, silene vulgaris, thlaspi arvense, trifolium, erodium cicutarium, arctium, viola, valerianella locusta, chrysanthemum leucanthemum cardamine pratensis, veronica beccabunga, atriplex, beta vulgaris, cakile maritima, salicornia, cochlearia, crambe maritima, ligusticum scoticum, sesuvium

Arctic plants: Artic ledum groenlandicum, salix herbacea, phoenix, adansonia

Tropical plants: moringa oleifera, mangifera indica, basella alba, tamarindus indica, psophocarpus, ipomoea aquatica, nelumbium nuciferum,

Check whether already on page (some may already be there, dough some aren't) Some need to be boiled to be edible. All described in book: SAS Survival Handbook by John Wiseman

leaves of rubus spectabilis, arctostaphylos uva ursi could be edible, not sure (not clearly described in book)

needles could also be included to article (change article to: list of plants with edible leaves or needles: picea rubens, picea mariana (can be made into tea) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.243.186.173 (talk) 13:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Australian plants not mentioned: Xanthorroea australis, Dicksonia antartica, Livistonia benthamii, Hydriastele wendlandiana, gronophyllum ramsayi, Bruguiera gymnorrhiza, avicenna marina, Disphyma clavellatum, Hibiscus heterophyllus, Note that some plants of these need to be soaked/heated, while others have also non-edible plant parts. Also check whether Lepidium muelleri, Lepidium phlebopetalum, Lepidium oxytrichum, Livistonia humilis, Oxalis corniculata, Pandanus spiralis are mentioned

Also, can a "indiginous to" column be added to be able to search the database on country of origin ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.245.81.115 (talk) 13:03, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Is there an AfD page for this article?
Is there an AfD for this page? DonaldRichardSands (talk) 16:46, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No, the article is under the PROD process, which is distinct from AfD.--Pontificalibus (talk) 13:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Merge
How do the stated inclusion criteria for this list make it any different from List of leaf vegetables. Can we merge the two articles? --Pontificalibus (talk) 08:09, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The text of the List of leaf vegetables states that it is an abridged list. It is vague regarding the definition of "the most popular categories of cultivated or foraged greens". Popular where? In Australia? In England? Some of the leaf vegetables included in that list are not found in the markets where I live.(Xufanc (talk) 01:45, 20 August 2011 (UTC))
 * That article has the best title, but this article has the best content. I was thinking of copying the entire text of this article into that one, and deleting everything there except any items not included on the list at this page.--Pontificalibus (talk) 07:06, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I support a merge. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:29, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * OK for the merge, but I am not done with this page yet.(Xufanc (talk) 11:57, 20 August 2011 (UTC)).
 * No problem, you can continue editing at its new title.--Pontificalibus (talk) 16:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Note There's nothing worth merging on List of leaf vegetables as List of culinary vegetables is superior.

✅--Pontificalibus (talk) 11:34, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

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