Talk:List of mass shootings in the United States in 2024

My second edit to this Wikipedia list
Hello editors of Wikipedia!

I would like to explain my second edit to this Wikipedia list in more detail.

What I changed:

I changed the definition portion of the list by putting the different definitions into a table format. The first column contains an organization, the second column contains that organization's definition of mass shooting, and the third column counts how many mass shootings on the list would fit based on that definition. I think this is a positive change that will make the list less biased because it takes every definition into account, whereas it used to primarily favor more lenient ones. Please inform me if you have any issues with it.

Sincerely, Ngamuk on January 1, 2024. Ngamuk (talk) 22:19, 1 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I appreciate it and think it is a good idea. Despite that though I think it would've been nice if you brought this up as a suggestion and a vote. Raskuly (talk) 13:13, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Map
To keep the map up to date and/or if anyone wants to add the events to the map the page is Template:Map of United States mass shootings/2024. Thanks. Leaky.Solar (talk) 16:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Why are there two dots in Iowa? 207.237.167.6 (talk) 02:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC)


 * It appears that a February 25 incident in Milwaukee was mistakenly given coordinates in northwest Iowa. Raskuly (talk) 21:30, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Notes Section
Anybody have an idea why the notes in the chart are not stacking for the same note as they did in List of mass shootings in the United States in 2023? I tried copying the note from the old page to see if it would stop it but it seems to continue the trend. Thanks in advance Leaky.Solar (talk) 17:31, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Apologies, I just saw your message and I'm unsure if your issue has been resolved yet, though if it hasn't I'm unsure as to what you mean. Raskuly (talk) 13:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Notice that its almost all Republican states, that love their inbred gun laws, baha 69.130.171.131 (talk) 18:36, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I only just saw your message. Regardless of your political affiliation and the factuality, I think what you should be taking from this list is that there is a great national issue and that it needs to be addressed. Many of the victims of these incidents are children and teenagers and they often happen to the already most disadvantaged groups of people in the United States. This is nothing to scoff at and take pleasure in. Raskuly (talk) 21:26, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Be more specific with locations in cities
Hello!

I believe it to be beneficial to the readers of this list if we included neighborhoods, regions, or general cardinal directions at the very least when an incident occurs in a city (and by city I mean usually around 100,000+ population because they're more likely to have these distinguishing features).

Cities naturally tend to have the most incidents and I think it adds positively to the list whenever these things are noted in the summary of an incident, rather than having 22 Chicago incidents (like last year) with no additional information about where exactly it actually happened in the city. Perhaps an even better example would be New York City. Raskuly (talk) 13:17, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The neighborhoods/sections/districts are already in the descriptions of the incidents. TomCat4680 (talk) 13:53, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm aware (and I've added it myself on several occasions) but I just felt like stating this here so that others may feel more inclined to do it more often. Raskuly (talk) 16:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Also acceptable are streets/highways, local landmarks (parks, malls, bridges, geographical features like lakes or rivers), or names of schools/universities/colleges, all if they have their own articles. TomCat4680 (talk) 00:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Incidents in which the suspect is killed or injured away from the scene of the initial shooting(s)
I am curious if something different should be done with incidents in which the suspect is killed or injured in a separate location than the shooting(s) they committed. At least two incidents meet this criteria thus far on this article: 01/21 Preston Heights & Joliet, IL & 05/12 Ridgeland, MS.

In both incidents the suspect committed their shooting(s) in a single location or general area before fleeing to someplace else where they then died. Should these incidents and future potential incidents have a note similar to the one we use when a suspect is killed or injured in the victim tally but beside the location or should the place where the suspect was killed or injured also be noted in the location of the incident no different than for example how Ridgeland, Preston Heights, or Joliet is listed?

If we added notes they could either be copy and pasted like the aforementioned notes were currently used or unique notes that mention exactly where the suspect was injured or killed and what date as well. Raskuly (talk) 01:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I'd say mention where the incident took place in the location column then where the suspect was killed in the description. Makes it easier for sorting and keeps it simple. TomCat4680 (talk) 03:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Not listed but qualifies as mass shooting
https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2024/05/18/columbus-shooting-three-dead 76.157.246.158 (talk) 18:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It's already on the list. TomCat4680 (talk) 19:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

06/09 Madison, WI
In order to discontinue edit warring about the amount of injured in this particular incident I have started a section here to discuss it.

In previous incidents in which there are casualties as a result of something other than a gunshot we have described the other injuries in the description and not included those casualties under the dead or injured.

The amount of casualties as a result of this shooting incident is currently reported at 12, however two of those have non-gunshot injuries, therefore the total injury count in the column is 10 and the other two injuries have been noted in the description. Raskuly (talk) 01:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. The lede says "firearm-related violence", i.e. not all injuries have to be gunshots, but were obtained during the shooting. We discussed this in last year's article too. here. TomCat4680 (talk) 07:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Apologies but I am confused, are you in favor of including non-gunshot casualties under the dead or injured columns or not? Raskuly (talk) 20:05, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * List gunshot wounds in the dead/injured column then addition injuries in the description. TomCat4680 (talk) 23:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

07/13 Butler County, PA
We've previously listed incidents which happen outside of unincorporated areas as being whatever county or parish the incident occurred in. However, Pennsylvania is divided into townships and the location of this attack happened in Connoquenessing Township. Personally I am in favor of continuing to list incidents such as this as happening in a certain county irregardless of whether or not a state has townships or not for the sake of consistency, but I'd like to hear opinions on this. Raskuly (talk) 04:45, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Updated information showing the exact location of the shooting indicates it actually happened in Meridian, but since I brought it up might as well address it. Raskuly (talk) 07:24, 14 July 2024 (UTC)