Talk:List of monarchs of the Netherlands

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1815?
Sooo, the introduction mentions "since 1815" (which should be correct for the Netherlands) but the actual tables use since 179x (which would be the case if the Kingdom Holland is included too in the list). The first seems more correct to me, because otherwise you'd have to include Emperor Napoleon too, who was emperor of an area including the Netherlands for a while (with the name 'France') effeietsanders 15:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Ancestral Line of Orange-Nassau
The text under the first table, "Stadtholderate under the House of Orange-Nassau", states that the "ancestral line of the House of Orange-Nassau" went extinct when William III died. However in the table, the two succeeding monarchs are listed as belonging to the same family. This requires some clarification (probably in the table as well as in the text underneath). Alfrew (talk) 22:30, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Principality of the Netherlands
I'm a little confused by the paragraph "Principality of the Netherlands" - to the best of my knowledge this is a phrase that would not be used in Dutch at least, and it is the first time I come across it. In Dutch usually the term "Soeverein Vorst van Nederland" is used to refer to William I at that point - Sovereign of the Netherlands. This leaves unclear what exactly the status is at that point (which makes sense as negotiations are ongoing). See also nl:Soeverein_Vorstendom_der_Verenigde_Nederlanden. effeietsanders 22:44, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Stadtholders are no monarchs
Why does this list contain many non-monarchs. The stadtholders were no monarchs of the Nehterlands. Either they should be removed or the article should be renamed. Arnoutf (talk) 17:31, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Exactly right. The article should be split up. Unless there is already a page on the Stadtholders. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 19:15, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Why use monarch in the first place
The term monarchy describes a system that includes all kinds of rank. It is highly problematic and the Dutch king is exactly that a king, not a monarch. If you want to be precise "Het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden" is a constitutional monarchy. Monarchy is a descriptor of the system not what we call ourselves or the leading person of our Kingdom. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 17:21, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

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is where a king keizer or poor rule not an empire? i am now 31 years old and i also never heared about a Roman Republic. please advice.
Republic / Empire 2A02:A454:E457:1:9153:CED6:8B77:AAF1 (talk) 20:27, 10 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @2A02:A454:E457:1:9153:CED6:8B77:AAF1 i meen offcourse Pope. 2A02:A454:E457:1:9153:CED6:8B77:AAF1 (talk) 20:29, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Why two lists of stadtholders with overlapping time ranges?
As I understand, originally each province had their own stadtholder, but starting in 1678 often these offices were unified across the provinces, and these people are listed here. But why have two lists (one for each family) instead of listing them in chronological order? The "family" column should be enough to distinguish them. Paul Ebermann (talk) 19:14, 7 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Here is how such a merged table could look like:
 * Paul Ebermann (talk) 20:01, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Paul Ebermann (talk) 20:01, 7 June 2023 (UTC)