Talk:List of prime ministers of the United Kingdom

PMs who were peers
Why does this article put the titles of PMs who were peers in small and non-bold font, and their personal names in normal-sized bold font, when it should clearly be the other way around? Peers are referred to by their titles, not their personal names. These people are universally referred to as "Lord Liverpool", "Lord Salisbury", "the Duke of Newcastle", etc - no one would have the faintest idea who you were talking about if you referred to "the 19th century Prime Minister Robert Jenkinson". Proteus (Talk) 17:55, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Totally agree - best thing is to find a British source - UK conventions on names can be trickey to those not used to them. Echo613 (talk) 20:51, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Can "Lord John Russell" be changed to "John Russell" for conformity?
John Russell was prime minister twice, first from 1846-1852 and then from 1865-1866. For his first term, he's listed on this page as "Lord John Russell", but for his second he's listed on the page as "John Russell". Can the entry for the first term be changed to "John Russell" so that they are standardized? (No other prime minister is listed with a title in this same way; see Frederick North as an example: he is not listed as "Lord Frederick North".) Jylothr (talk) 15:08, 1 June 2023 (UTC)


 * North was Lord North, as the heir to an Earldom, not "Lord Frederick North". Russell pre 1861 is always "Lord John Russell" as that was his name - without the "Lord" it's almost as if it means another person. Names do not conform easily. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:01, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Titles and Knighthoods
I find it odd that there is no mention of former prime minsters' titles and knighthoods. Even if they were granted a title or knighthood after their tenure, there should be a footnote.

No mention of baron/baroness or sir/lady on their name. Is there a solution for this? StrawWord298944 (talk) 03:29, 28 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @StrawWord298944: Adding more and more to a list makes it even more unwieldy than it is already. Individuals' articles, all linked from the list, are the place for personal attributes to be recorded. Bazza (talk) 09:40, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Remove "Before the Kingdom of Great Britain" section
Suggest removal of this section.

a) It is superfluous to this page intended to list Prime Ministers, given that neither the role of Prime Minister, nor the Kingdom of Great Britain, even existed before the union of Scotland and England in 1707.

b) It is inconsistent with the concise nature of similar lists of leaders of other countries.

c) It is unnecessary duplication to use this page to detail the history of the leaderships of the Kingdoms of Scotland and England prior to 1707 as this can easily be found on more appropriate pages elsewhere.

92.40.194.235 (talk) 00:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I (mostly) agree with your proposal and reasoning. The first paragraph of the section you refer to should be removed. The second can be moved (and, if necessary, reworded) to the start of the 1707-1721 section as it contains some explanatory information (on the LHT and commissions) which applies to the 1707-1721 period; the section should be renamed "Before 1721". Bazza (talk) 10:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Liz Truss' tenure
It states that Liz Truss had 50 days in office as Prime Minister but I am certain it stated 49 days beforehand. I've calculated it and it is 49 days, can this be reinstated?! RyanPLB (talk) 22:46, 19 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @RyanPLB: It depends on what you count. If you count the first partial day, when she assumed office, and the last partial day, on which she resigned, then there are 50 days or part-days; or 48 whole days. This has been discussed before for another article: . What number would you use if she had assumed office on one day and resigned the next? Bazza 7 (talk) 12:01, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Adding Rishi Sunak as a permanent image within this article's lead intro image gallery
I think a new layout is needed for this article's lead intro image gallery. As the first British Asian prime minister, I believe this is a noteworthy inclusion. Caption to read something like the current ones: "Rishi Sunak was the first British Asian prime minister of the United Kingdom." Jamzze (talk) 15:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't disagree Sunak's premiership is noteworthy, however the gallery is now being attempted to be expanded to 6, rather than the traditional 4 which looked a lot cleaner.
 * I'd say the general number of photos would need to be agreed on. If it's 4 - Walpole (as the first), Churchill (as the leader during later stages of WW2) and Thatcher (first female PM and major figure) have been the 3 staples of the gallery alongside the incumbent PM.
 * I feel that 4-image set up works better than expanding it to 6. ScottishPolitico (talk) 13:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that 4 is best and agree with the combination you've chosen. — Czello (music) 14:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Henry Pelham's tenure
Henry Pelham's term in office is given as 27th August 1743 to 6th March 1754, duration: 10 years 192 days.

Great Britain switched from the Julian Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar in September 1752 - it went from 2nd Sept to 14th Sept, missing out 11 days. So, the duration in office should actually be 10 years 181 days, see Adoption of the Gregorian calendar Katrinabryce (talk) 17:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)