Talk:List of rivers of Ireland

Untitled
If this article isn't going to contain anything more than a list of rivers in Ireland, then it should be renamed to List of Ireland rivers. --Diberri | Talk 18:45, Aug 19, 2004 (UTC)

Rivers infobox
After seeing the fantastic map thats been created for the river shannon, I was thinking it would be nice to have a rivers infobox. I'll create one now and apply it to the R. Shannon article on a trial basis, if people like it, i'll add it to the wiki list of infoboxes currently in use and we can roll out the map/infobox across all Irish rivers. Any suggestions for alterations sould be made on the talk page of the template.

Controversial terms
Hmm, it has been said that, in respect of this article, that "jurisdiction is [a] less controversial [term] than country".

I won't argue, except to say that I consider the legalistic term jurisdiction more likely probably to raise the spectre of controversy than the comparatively much vaguer country...

Nevertheless, grouping the rivers debouching from Northern Ireland is a neat classification solution. -- Picapica 22:54, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Ireland is a country - an island next to Great Britain. The Republic of Ireland (also known as Ireland) is a state covering the 26 counties. Northern Ireland is that part of Ireland which remains within the United Kingdom. It is not a country, nor a state. It is a "region" or "part" within the UK. "Province" is often used to describe what NI is, but unfortunately this ignores that the province is Ulster - which includes three counties in the Republic.
 * zoney &#09827; talk 23:47, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Zoney, you really are teaching grandmotherly ovisuction here... (Do you genuinely think I am unaware of the composition of the Irish provinces??)

"Northern Ireland" is de facto (and I speak as a thorough Irish irredentist!) one of the four countries of the United Kingdom. That has to be recognized -- or are you really saying that the UK consists of three countries plus "a part"?

My own beef, nomeclature-wise, with what appears in so many articles dealing with Irish geography is the excessive use in geographical articles of the term "Republic of Ireland". Pace what you say above, it's not a question of: "The Republic of Ireland (also known as Ireland)". It should be: "Ireland (also known as the Republic of Ireland)".

The country's name is Ireland: "the Republic of Ireland" is no more than a style -- useful in historico-political articles dealing with Partition and its aftermath, but I see absolutely no need for the like of "County Waterford, Republic of Ireland" which we so frequently see. (That would be as opposed to the County Waterford in Northern Ireland, no doubt.) I do seem to detect the hand in a fair number of Irish articles of the American "Paris, Texas" school of editorship which insists of following all place-names with "comma territory"...

I know I have my share of bees-in-the-bonnet, but I hope we are all, in fact, aiming to put the production of well written articles at the head of our list of priorities. -- Picapica 00:26, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Responses at User talk:Picapica. zoney &#09827; talk 10:41, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

List order
I understand that the intention is to present those rivers which reach the sea in clockwise order (although this hasn't been done yet with those emptying into the Atlantic) - but what about the order of tributary rivers in relation to the larger stream? (Perhaps clockwise too, starting from the lowest on the right bank of the larger stream?) -- Picapica 17:40, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Dublin Rivers

 * Do we need to have every spit, dribble and trickle in County Dublin as part of this article? One has to wade through (pardon the pun!) over a hundred such rivulets to access info on proper rivers!Johnnyf1nn (talk) 21:35, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Merge with "Rivers of Ireland" - very similar
This article is very similar to the "Rivers of Ireland". I think it makes sense to merge the two articles. --Wanfried-Dublin (talk) 20:47, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

List standards
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