Talk:Liuqiu Island

Merger Proposal
I propose merging Liouciou Township to this article. The township covers all of Xiaoliuqiu and no need for separate articles, and allows reader to get everything together. Mistakefinder (talk) 09:32, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * agree, but do we need any other certification or can we just merge it ourselves? PhilipxD (talk) 16:54, 16 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Support a merge. Anyone can do it per WP:BEBOLD.  The proposal has been posted here for nearly half a year without objection.  —  AjaxSmack   03:06, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Rename to "Little Liuqiu"
The island is more commonly known as Little Liuqiu in English and the official name of the island in english is "Little Liuqiu". PhilipXD 02:52, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Nope. The official name of the island in English and Chinese is Liuqiu. If "Xiaoliuqiu" is actually common, I guess this is fine as a but it looks more like this should be at Liuqiu Island, Liuqiu (Taiwan), or sth. —  Llywelyn II   20:07, 28 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Poking around, no form of Xiaoliuqiu even regesters at Ngram. Bing still calls it Lamay Island. Google Maps misspells it Lambai for some reason.  is a tiny bit more common than   at Google Scholar, but (a) some of them are probably deferring to the placement of this article and (b) it's not a big enough difference to override the thing's official name. It's just Liuqiu, they sometimes call it Xiaoliuqiu for cuteness or clarity, but not enough in English that it's the  name by any means. —  Llywelyn II   20:29, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Is the Infobox supposed to take up this much of the article?
I seldom see infoboxes that use up to half of an article's space. 1 --VintageHygrometer (talk) 13:03, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind, turns out it was a web archive link which was responsible for the unusually large infobox. --VintageHygrometer (talk) 14:12, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It was a bad infobox anyway. Fixed. — Llywelyn II   20:04, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Location
Technically, it is entirely inside the South China Sea since the IHO's 3rd ed. of Oceans and Seas doesn't even include the Taiwan Strait as a thing and draws the boundary between the East and South China Seas from the north end of Taiwan. That doesn't seem helpful to mention, since the 4th ed. fixes that, has been kicking around for decades, and just hasn't been approved because of the Japan Sea issue. It's far more natural to just say it's in the Taiwan Strait.

Going with that, the southern boundary of the Taiwan Strait is well south of this island, running from Eluanbi to the mainland. If the strait and the seas are viewed as different bodies of water, the South China Sea is nowhere near Liuqiu and doesn't bear mentioning. — Llywelyn II   21:10, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Also, fwiw, the "official" coordinates are 22°19’48” N, 120°21’55” E, although that's a bit towards the southwest side of the island. — Llywelyn II   02:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Dubious weather "data"
Aside from the fact that the rainfall being reported here is from somewhere else on the Taiwanese mainland,
 * Its highest average temperature is 27.9°C in July and lowest average temperature is 17°C in March. The average annual rainfall is about 1000 mm.

is the data reported from the city's own authorities and probably more trustworthy than the info we're currently using in the climate infobox. — Llywelyn II   08:22, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Female infanticide
Female infanticide (in China) seems to have been formerly been practiced on the island in a fairly ritual way. Momphard's article reports


 * The most remote of these grottoes is, yet again, famous for a tragic reason. It was the sight where, in the last century, locals disposed of unwanted baby girls. It's now marked by a shrine built in the girls' honor.

but he doesn't actually say which grotto that is. The third-most-famous after Black Dwarf Cave and Beauty Cave is Lobster Cave, but nothing else on the internet seems to connect it with infanticide. If anyone from the area can clear that up and put a name to the place, it'd be useful for the article. — Llywelyn II   04:56, 5 April 2019 (UTC)