Talk:Livestreamed crime

Easter killings
Should we include the Easter killings by that one black guy? 2605:E000:AFD7:A800:3833:D883:4530:FE3A (talk) 08:58, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Do livestreamed suicides belong here?
This article includes a couple of cases of people livestreaming themselves committing suicide. Though those videos must have undoubtedly been shocking and disturbing to those watching them, I'm not sure they quite fit the title of the article, as suicide by itself is not a crime in most jurisdictions. Should those cases be removed, or should the article be renamed to something else? Robofish (talk) 18:16, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a better name for the article would be "live streaming violence". What all the listed incidents have in common is their gore or intensity, which often makes recordings of it spread virally on social media, in spite of attempts by Facebook and such to flag and remove them. The 2016 police shooting incident is another example that's not technically a crime: The live streaming doesn't show the victim committing any crime, and doesn't show the police officer (who was later acquitted) shooting him either, but it still shows the bloody aftermath. Thanks, Cruiser1 (talk) 21:43, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I second the idea of renaming the article to "Live streaming violence" or possibly "Live streaming crime and violence" if we are going to include cases where no crime was committed - such as the libelous-towards-the-officer categorization of the Philando Castile shooting as a crime T`swift`rocks (talk) 09:03, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I see this disconnect where I am attempting to add nonviolent crimes to this. It might be worth splitting the articles into livestreamed violence, which mainly would focus on people whose motives for livestreaming come from a desire for sadism or infamy, and rowdy irl streamers encouraged by their audiences in a separate article SiliconProphet (talk) 20:41, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Philando Castile shooting not a crime
While it is wrong to refer to anyone's actions as a "crime" prior to them being proven guilty in a court of law, this page persists to include the justifiable homicide of Philando Castile in a category of "crime" long after he was found NOT GUILTY by a court of law. I realize this is a controversial issue, which is why I am posting here instead of just editing the article unilaterally - but "crime" is legally defined and not subjective, and one could even take calling this a crime as a form of libel against the officer who has been found not guilty of any crime. I can provide several reputable news sources for the not guilty finding if anyone wishes to dispute this point and claim the incident belongs in any category of crimes. T`swift`rocks (talk) 09:01, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed, Wikipedia makes strong efforts to avoid libel. Therefore I've updated the article to indicate the live streaming phenomenon isn't limited to criminal acts, but also includes other violent or gory events. Thanks, Cruiser1 (talk) 22:43, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Christchurch call
I was surprised this article make no mention of the Christchurch call nor discusses any governmental action, legislation, social media company policies or technological measures about livestreaming crime-related content. So I added a See also wiki-link as a starting point. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 03:50, 23 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Good point! Do you have any other similar examples for a “responses” or “reactions” type section? @Cameron Dewe Sydpresscott (talk) 00:28, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Sydpresscott: In regard to the live-streaming of the 2019 Christchurch Mosque shootings; New Zealand's Chief Film Censor declared that live-streamed content objectionable, making possession or distribution of that content a criminal offence. Several people have subsequently been prosecuted for possessing or redistributing that content too. Also, the delay introduced by the live-streaming uploading process caused confusion with the Police response, who thought the delayed stream was happening in real time and that is also part of a NZ coronal investigation currently underway. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 05:08, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Non-murder crimes
It seems this article is very focused on rape and murder and other extreme violent crimes. Should we do more work to include lesser crimes such as livestreamed disorderly conduct and other crimes such as the crimes of Malik Sanchez and other irl streamers? SiliconProphet (talk) 20:37, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Crime and Media
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