Talk:Living for Love

For future use

 * http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/rebel-heart-madonna-reveals-the-story-behind-six-surprise-songs-20141221

List any additional sources here  Snuggums ( talk  /  edits ) 04:32, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * This is already added. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat ] 06:28, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to all who have worked on this article. It looks great! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:04, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

German 2-Track CD Single
A CD Single will be released on February 27, 2014 (Interscope / Universal Germany). http://www.amazon.de/Living-Love-2-Track-Madonna/dp/B00T3Q1C4K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1422974908&sr=8-2&keywords=madonna+living+for+love+cd 87.182.49.98 (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Added thanks. Although it does not have a track list. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat ] 14:56, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Today a tracklist (without lenghth) has published on Amazon Germany:

1. Living For Love - Madonna

2. Living For Love (Offer Nissim Living For Drama Mix) - Madonna

http://www.amazon.de/Living-Love-2-Track-Madonna/dp/B00T3Q1C4K/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1423049224&sr=1-2&keywords=madonna+living+for+love+cd 87.182.51.10 (talk) 11:27, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

iTunes remix track list
Has anyone got a link to this? I thought it was available for purchase? — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat ] 12:35, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/living-for-love-remixes/id964995588 - since February 9, 2015, it is available on iTunes. 

Sorry, I don't know the codes to insert my own IP into the corpus of the text. I really apologize for that.

Sorry, I need to add that the ep remixes is also available on the iTunes Store of my native country, Brazil: https://itunes.apple.com/br/album/living-for-love-remixes/id963757934 I think it is a worldwide release, if the editors have some time could check at some local iTunes Stores. Thank you for the inclusion of the reference I have brought. It is so wonderful for me to have the opportunity for helping as much as possible.

Vevo premiere
After being deleted from Snapchat, Vevo has released the video here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:10, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

does anyone have the exact date of the shooting and can add it please, if the date is knowm? 91.17.121.37 (talk) 12:48, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

UK radio ban
Should the UK radio ban be added in the Commercial performance section? Seemed controversial hence asking. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat ] 06:21, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Turns out it might be false. Daily Mail is really pathetic. — Indian: BIO  [ <b style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;color:#1C1CF0;">ChitChat</b> ] 06:26, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we need to mention this issue on the article since it received a lot of media coverage and response from her fellow musicians. For example, "Sorry" article also includes her U.S. radio boycott. Whether they really said "ban Madonna!" or not, BBC Radio 1 has been actually known for their ageism to several artists, including Robbie Williams. I don't see any problem as long as we stick with WP:NPOV and WP:V. Bluesatellite (talk) 11:49, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * So it should be in the UK chart performance part? — Indian: BIO  [ <b style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;color:#1C1CF0;">ChitChat</b> ] 18:24, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Probably so <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 18:48, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I added it, can you check it once that its neutral? — Indian: BIO  [ <b style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;color:#1C1CF0;">ChitChat</b> ] 04:31, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 04:35, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2015
Under Music video, Development, section 6.1, the paragraph credits design of the masks to a Riccardo Tisci. The masks were actually designed and created by Los Angeles Jewelry designer Marianna Harutunian. The horns were created by someone else. My wife works for Marianna Harutunian and I knew about the masks before the video was released, and before both the Grammy's and Brit's performances. Here is some evidence:

Marianna's Facebook page showing the finished products: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155232986170224&set=a.10152015444900224.898076.798860223&type=1&theater

Marianna's Instagram page showing a sneek peak of her working on a partially complete mask as early as 6 January 2015: https://instagram.com/p/xgDS9AFSOW/?modal=true

The masks for sale online at my wife's website: http://www.usfashionsource.com/#!product/prd1/3618274351/madonna-living-for-love-crystal-mask

Cavemanzhi (talk) 18:19, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ❌ Neither Facebook, nor Instagram nor a retail source link is acceptable. And the Tisci line is sourced to one reliable source. — Indian: BIO  [ <b style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;color:#1C1CF0;">ChitChat</b> ] 18:21, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Second Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2015
I'm sorry if this reply is not written correctly as I am very new to this. I understand about the credibility issue with the provided links. That was a concern for me as well and unfortunately I have no other sources.

Can the credit to Tisci be removed at least? The Style.com article only says that he "approved of Madonna’s male Minotaurs and their crystallized masks," it doesn't say that he designed or made them, and the article then links to Tisci's Instagram account when he simply shared a picture of the masks but never claimed to have created them. Thank you for your time.

Cavemanzhi (talk) 20:54, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I couldn't find any other sources to support that statement either, so I've removed it. Also pinging who added the sentence in case he has something to add. Stickee (talk) 23:44, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, I added the sentence but I made sure that it nowhere says that he created them, just that he approved them. Sorry for reverting your edit. — Indian: BIO  [ <b style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;color:#1C1CF0;">ChitChat</b> ] 05:27, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem, but there still seems to be an issue with the wording. There's a difference between "approving" something, and "approving of" something. The former implies that Tisci has an official capacity in which he can approve the masks, while the latter means he simply agrees with it. The latter appears to be correct per the sources: Tisci had no role whatsovever in the development or design or production, as the creator of the request pointed out. Stickee (talk) 05:42, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Just using a direct line from source would do no? — Indian: BIO  [ <b style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;color:#1C1CF0;">ChitChat</b> ] 05:44, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Possibly. I've changed the sentence so that it no longer implies he designed the piece. How's that? Stickee (talk) 05:54, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

EDIT: 4 March 2015 Thank you and  for your help with this. Just one more thing; The author for this source was contacted and it now says "Riccardo Tisci approved of Madonna’s male Minotaurs and their crystallized masks by Marianna Harutunian..." Can we have the designer credited now, since the source has been updated? Thanks again guys. Cavemanzhi (talk) 21:31, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Stickee (talk) 00:10, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry guys, one last thing; The sentence reads "Designer Riccardo Tisci approved of the use crystal masks and horns for Madonna's dancers as Minotaurs by Marianna Harutunian..."

She didn't design the horns, only the masks. The source corroborates this, since it only says the masks are by her. The horns were done by Cecilio Castrillo Martinez. I'm not sure if it's a good source, but here's his website: http://leatherdesigns.es/en/celebrities/leatherdesigns-pieces-for-madonnas-grammy-performance-2015.php?id=27 Cheers! Cavemanzhi (talk) 19:43, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * ✅ Doesn't seem like a contentious point. Not sure if that source is quite good enough, but it's been rephrased to no longer imply that Marianna Harutunian created the horns. Grayfell (talk) 05:49, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Reception of the song.
The official charts had its viewers vote for their favourite (UK released) Madonna single of all time this week and "Living For Love" was voted in at number 8. I think this deserve a mention maybe at the end of its critical reception?

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/pop-gem-96-madonna-like-a-prayer__8653/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.223.206.190 (talk) 19:57, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

UK limited 4 track CD single
There is also an official 4-Track CD single from UK. Please can someone add this to the "Formats" section? http://store.universalmusic.com/madonna/*/*/Living-For-Love-CD-Single/48HB0000000

Limited edition CD single package in a standard slim line jewel case.

Tracklist:

Living For Love Living For Love (Mike Rizzo's Funk Generation Club Mix) Living For Love (Offer Nissim Living For Drama Mix) Living For Love (Djemba Djemba Club Mix) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.137.193.67 (talk) 11:14, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Removal of other template
For other uses, see Living for Love (disambiguation) is required even if the other topics are only mentioned rather than having standalone articles. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:47, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * There is no point in having a DAB when only one article contains the title "Living for Love". <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 05:49, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes there is, see WP:DISAMBIGUATION, we disambiguate by topic and content not title. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:53, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

fan writing on this page
"Living for Love" reached the top-twenty of the charts in Croatia, Finland, Hungary, Israel, Japan and Lebanon"t

this is fan writing. it should be said that Croatia, Israel, lebanon are airplay charts. and finland is a digital chart — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.237.201.20 (talk) 12:50, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Slant Magazine's Best Singles of 2015
Living for Love was included on this list. It would be nice if the article could mention this honour. See here: http://www.slantmagazine.com/features/article/the-25-best-singles-of-2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimoincolor (talk • contribs) 15:37, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks this has been added now. — Indian: BIO  [ <b style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;color:#1C1CF0;">ChitChat</b> ] 16:03, 17 December 2015 (UTC)