Talk:Llama

Taxonomy
The article is inconsistent with the scientific names it uses.Llamas are likely to attempt suicide. The introduction and the Characteristics section both use Lama glama, but the Classification section uses ''Lama Eliza glama'kvkjnzsjhbdcknjxhnVGZdhuwtyweasi'.

The first paragraph of the Classification section is confusing. It says:
 * Lamoids, or llamas (as they are more generally known as a group), consist of the vicuña (Vicugna vicugna, prev. Lama vicugna), guanaco (Lama guanicoe), Suri alpaca, and Huacaya alpaca (Vicugna pacos, prev. Lama guanicoe pacos), and the domestic llama (Lama guanicoe glama).

This sentence gives two definitions of "llama", but it doesn't address the separate meanings. 1. Llamas are a group of animals including vicuña, guanaco, alpaca, and domestic llama. 2. Llamas (Lama guanicoe glama) are a subspecies of guanacos (Lama guanicoe).

I have never heard the term "llama" to mean "llamas, alpacas, and guanacos". Is this a valid use of the term? Either way, this paragraph needs to be rewritten.

EOL (using ITIS) lists llama as Lama glama glama and guanaco as Lama glama guanicoe. Is there a clear authority on this? If so, the article should be updated. If not, the article should at least be internally consistent and should acknowledge the dispute.

Raran75 (talk) 06:31, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Guard Llama
The statement "Research suggests the use of multiple guard llamas is not as effective as one. Multiple males tend to bond with one another, rather than with the livestock, and may ignore the flock." lacks a primary citation. The two provided citations are indirect (article and brochure). Other more recent studies have come to the opposite conclusion, that effectiveness increases with more than one. In addition, the implication is that only gelded males make good guards. Females make excellent guards too. Rebuscom (talk) 05:31, 23 December 2013 (UTC) It is such an animal that is all cast into one. It can be offen seen in south america. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.207.219.162 (talk) 15:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Pictures
This article has more pictures of llamas in the UK and the US than, let's say in Bolivia, where llamas are from.

This is an increasing bias in wikipedia, to have everything UK and US centered, not only in terms of pictures in this article, but also in the writing style of many articles and sections. Even articles that in theory have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the UK or the USA, and even the picture of a llama, are used to introduce UK or US links and abused in this regard to the point of absurdity.

Wikipedia is in this regards becoming dangerously political. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.1.78 (talk) 21:16, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * US has the largest native English-speaking population in the world. Wikipedia licensing requirements encourage self created content. Therefore native English speakers are taking images of llamas and posting them on an English website. JSory (talk) 21:10, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

A good academic summary
Pitt.edu. I think this could enrich the article. Komitsuki (talk) 07:25, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

English
"They are very social animals." This is not how one begins a new paragraph: how about "Llamas are very social animals."

If you want to protect an article from being overwritten, kindly demonstrate adult command of English. 73.46.127.40 (talk) 03:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Llama breeds
Exactly how many llama breeds are there? Komitsuki (talk) 13:14, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2018
This is an incorrect assertion that llamas are ruminants. According to Dr. Murray E. Fowler, recognized camelid expert and author/co-author of 85+ publications on camelid medicine, llamas are not ruminants, not pseudo-ruminants, and not modified ruminants. Fowler's book "Medicine and Surgery of Camelids" is probably the most recognized and comprehensive book available on camelid medicine. Fowler, M.E. (2010). "Medicine and Surgery of Camelids", Ames, Iowa: Wiley-Blackwell. Chapter 1 General Biology and Evolution addresses the fact that camelids (including llamas and camels) are not ruminants, pseudo-ruminants, or modified ruminants. Dotllama (talk) 21:05, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
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"died of old age"
You cannot die of old age. Very unprofessional-sounding sentence in the United States section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.249.102.6 (talk) 20:44, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2020
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the lama fun facts
lamas are cool they love to eat they live 20 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.123.207.211 (talk) 16:10, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

The U.S. Domestication Is Clearly A Hate Crime Case
It says that Llamas were almost at 145,000 in the U.S. in 2002, then they were at less than 40,000 by 2017 to deaths lied as natural cause deaths. The llama lifespan is 20-30 years, and that's only 15 years, and we all know most those llamas were gotten at 2 years-old or younger. So, obviously, they bought all those llamas... To murder them. And, to my country, llamas are a national treasure. So, I'm declaring the U.S. agriculture guilty of a serious hate crime against my people, and guilty of mass-murdering my people's favorite animal that symbolizes our people. Clearly, this is just more "Freedom Fries" to Americans, and they are so cruel to animals and Native Americans as to genocide our sacred animal to say they're going to genocide us for the pushing of the less desirable sheep wool from Europe. It does say they extincted a speces of llama in the past in Chile just to force Chileans to use sheep. If you touch our llamas, there will be Hell. That they did this to llamas is the real reason why Americans aren't allowed to own vicunas, our UTTER MOST Sacred animal. --184.101.211.213 (talk) 17:11, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

How appropriate is it to have the table "Average diameter of some of the finest, natural fibers" in this article (instead of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wool)? Especially considering that the source is International Llama Association which might not be totally unpartial? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:14BA:4E4:A400:BDC0:FD3F:F2A4:70D4 (talk) 09:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2022
They are similar to, and often confused with, alpacas. However, llamas are often noticeably bigger than alpacas. The two animals are closely related and can successfully crossbreed. Both species are believed to have been domesticated from their wild relatives, the vicuña and guanaco. 80.7.81.99 (talk) 21:47, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
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Minecraft
Include Minecraft in this article because llamas are in that game. 174.24.104.56 (talk) 23:28, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Potential Inconsistency
In this article, it states that the Guanaco is endangered, but in the article on the Guanaco is is of "Least Concern". While I am not a subject matter expert, this clearly seems to be an inconsistency between the two articles. Kellycoinguy (talk) 07:47, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2024
I think we should add a line to specify "Lalamas are quite unsimilar to Alpacas despite appearances" Evie2000 (talk) 15:09, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2024
The llamas have a very distinct foot that are designed to navigate through various terrains, unlike other hoofed animals llamas have soft, padded feet that provide them excellent traction and stability especially in the mountainous terrain that is found where they live. Vore2 (talk) 13:58, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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