Talk:Lucifer

Lucifer is a title not a name
Lucifer means bringer of light/bearer of light. It's a powerful title given by God until the angel opposed God and was given the title Satan, meaning adversary. Jesus later claims to be the morning star, Lucifer. It's not the demons name. 50.47.109.128 (talk) 01:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Source? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 01:54, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
 * What is the essential difference between a name and a title? Presumably, we would say, that a name is a label that attaches to an individual personally; and a title relates to their function, or a honorific, or some other qualification, which may change. However, in different cultures from ours, names can be subject to alteration in response to their bearer's changing function (e.g., the 18th Century Japanese artist, originally called Tokitarō, later named Shunrō, still later Tawaraya Sōri, then Hokusai Tomisa, and finally shortened to Hokusai, by which name he is now world-renowned). Even in Western culture, for example, a royal heir may change their baptismal name for a regnal name by which they are to be known after coronation; and conventionally, a woman's surname can change to her husband's upon marriage, without need of involving the law. Names, in fact, really are titles.
 * Nuttyskin (talk) 10:17, 3 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Lucifer is the name of the ancient Latin/Roman/Italian god of the morning star (version of the Greek Phosphorus).--dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 03:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Link to hapax legomenon
I thought a note linking to hapax legomenon would be helpful near this statement—I actually asked myself when reading it, "What's that thing called when something appears only once in a work?" and went to look it up. User:Blaze Wolf Per WP:BRD, I'm dropping this here to seek others' input. I won't redo the edit; if others feel it's useful, be my guest. --47.147.118.55 (talk) 05:12, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

God didn't whack Lucifer we missed links of etymology breaks and human error interrupt it as fear of calamity-Judgment
We need to remember the Togo people(ewe, sheep) and the Jews(G's and J's are silent in yiddish) but they were slaves in Eygpt. The Eygptian folklore of "Lake of Fire" is outer space, and the judgement of "darkness " and weeping and thrashing is a eytomolgy mix of the letter "shin". Eygpt was trying to article two boats-straits as a means to "physically ascend" into outer Space[Upper Eschalon of Heaven] And the Yiddish ancient Semitic alphabet Shin has 4 meanings, Press{winnowing/reaping(as in pun of weeping work), teeth(hieroglyphs of teeth meaning gnashing grinding- eatting, fire because of how it looked(hieroglyphs) and two a separation[from the Euphrates river]. So There is no hell in the fiery detail but its teh fact we live on earth and work and grow wheat and we thresh the chaff and wheat and separate the two, so God collects the souls from the body. AS for God he is never tempted to wrath-knowing every detail of character he put Lucifer at the center of Worship instead to show his love.God is referred as being impartial and that includes in his admiration of a being wanting to be "like God" and would rise us up to the anointing, How ever even teh Son of God-God in the flesh said "arent we all small Gods" and was deemed blasphemous and then crucified. By all means its a mix up because I Emmanuel literally was killed over him saying it's okay to aspire to be like God, thats the whole rhetoric. Quick mention God is said to have always spoke in parables and hides peoples eye from the meaning until they see light. its to protect the wreath, Also when Jesus resurrected he physically came to the earthly plane and flew to outer space, so the nephelims also came from heaven. theres a lot of eytomolgy that could bless the occasion but We need to remember God is love. Also (forgive my first post) but the Jews on safari.org if you look at the original writing of yiddish its strictly consonants. and so when the fall of humanity was the forbidden fruit it actually says "devouring slaying of the sword" colonizing thats why they were led to the wilderness to have to rebuild their fort. but the israelites started a revolt-which the orignal writing for the consequence of the DGN[written dragon later] and the leg was a soothsayer so "dvl" is dbl, like insurance, people are trying to be God mystic-power-(lest not lack Compassion). its not a dragon sorcery its spirit-seraphim, our souls is originally written "STN" STAN for soul. nothing negative, we might conflate something as a lemon meaning "to deprecate as an ill omen"  was --Galaticrefuge (talk) 07:23, 27 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Cuculus canorus. Nuttyskin (talk) 09:44, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

too Christianity-focused
Lucifer is the name of the ancient Latin/Roman/Italian god of the morning star (version of the Greek Phosphorus), which (predating Christianity) should be stated in the beginning section, but no longer is: this article is too Christianity-focused.--dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 03:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

1st century "Palestinian Judaism"
The Kingdom of Judea was not renamed to Syria-Palaestina by the Roman Empire until the 2nd century. It is therefore historically incorrect to refer to "Palestinian Judaism". This can be easily verified by referring to the Wikipedia page or any history textbook about the region. As it stands, there is no source to support the claim of 1st century "Palestinian Judaism". Ausgothika (talk) 22:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * "The ancient Romans pinned the name on the Land of Israel. In 135 CE, after stamping out the province of Judea’s second insurrection, the Romans renamed the province Syria Palaestina—that is, “Palestinian Syria.” They did so resentfully, as a punishment, to obliterate the link between the Jews (in Hebrew, Y’hudim and in Latin Judaei) and the province (the Hebrew name of which was Y’hudah). “Palaestina” referred to the Philistines, whose home base had been on the Mediterranean coast." - https://www.hudson.org/node/44363
 * "In 132 the emperor Hadrian decided to build a Roman colony, Aelia Capitolina, on the site of Jerusalem. The announcement of his plan, as well as his ban on circumcision (revoked later, but only for the Jews), provoked a much more serious uprising, the Second Jewish Revolt, led by Bar Kokhba. It was ruthlessly repressed by Julius Severus; according to certain accounts, almost 1,000 villages were destroyed and more than half a million people killed. In Judaea proper the Jews seem to have been virtually exterminated, but they survived in Galilee, which, like Samaria, appears to have held aloof from the revolt. Tiberias in Galilee became the seat of the Jewish patriarchs. The province of Judaea was renamed Syria Palaestina (later simply called Palaestina), and, according to Eusebius of Caeseria (Ecclesiastical History, Book IV, chapter 6), no Jew was thenceforth allowed to set foot in Jerusalem or the surrounding district." - https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine/Roman-Palestine
 * "As early as 300 BCE, the term Judaea [Judea] appears, most likely to describe the area where the population was predominantly Jewish. It was distinguished from Palestine and Syria. Coins with the word Judaea or something similar were produced at the time of the first Jewish revolt (66-70 CE). In the 2nd century CE, the Romans crushed the revolt of Shimon Bar Kokhba (132 CE), during which Jerusalem and Judea were conquered, and the area of Judea was renamed Palaestina in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel." - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/origin-of-quot-palestine-quot 123.243.94.178 (talk) 23:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Despite multiple sources being provided to support the claim that the region was not renamed "Palestine" until the 2nd century, the edit continues to be reverted with absolutely no citation for "Palestinian Judaism". Requesting that those who wish to revert it to "Palestinian Judaism" please cite this. Ausgothika (talk) 00:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * What you miss is that your edit is displayed to Wikipedians, but not to the usual reader of Wikipedia. So no, nobody has approved your edit. A Wikipedian in good standing would have to approve it in order to get displayed to the usual reader.
 * I'm not anti-Semitic, I'm not even anti-Zionistic. It a simple matter that mainstream Bible scholars write "Palestine", so Wikipedia also writes "Palestine". tgeorgescu (talk) 02:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)