Talk:Mammalian kidney

About urine concentration
Since "kidney" word was removed from the statement in the diff, the statement became too broad. Urinary bladder and cloaca can participate in urine concentration in some species. Amphibolurus maculosus (lizard) concentrates its urine using cloaca:. D6194c-1cc (talk) 22:10, 3 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I've rephrased it. BorgQueen (talk) 22:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Good catch! JMCHutchinson (talk) 22:22, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Although, phrase "where it is concentrated" (diff:) can be understood as that urine had been already concentrated before tubules, that's why I've added "being" word previously, so that it cannot be understood ambiguously ("where it is being concentrated"). I'll return that word. D6194c-1cc (talk) 06:22, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, now I see the ambiguity, but "is being concentrated" is not idiomatic here. I have rephrased as "which concentrate it". JMCHutchinson (talk) 07:11, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Medicine and biology
This article is more on anatomy, which is a part of medicine, than biology. Even though anatomy is a field of study that can be considered a part of both medicine and biology and in medicine, the article is primarily focused on human anatomy for clinical purposes, while in biology, it encompasses a broader study of anatomy across different organisms and species. Still, there is no separate section for biology for GA nominations, there is a combined section for biology and medicine, and I considered that the rules for medicine should apply. However, these rules should not be imperatively followed, and a description could be given on the talk page on why a particular rule applies.

An article on the mammalian kidney can be considered both biology and medicine, as it encompasses aspects of both fields. From a biological perspective, the article would focus on the anatomy, physiology, and evolutionary aspects of the mammalian kidney. From medical prospective, it would cover topics such as kidney diseases, diagnostic methods, treatment options, and advancements in medical research related to the kidney. Understanding the mammalian kidney is crucial for medical professionals, as it forms the basis for diagnosing and treating various kidney disorders in humans. This aspect of the article would fall under the domain of medicine. In medicine, anatomy forms the foundation for understanding the structure and organization of the human body, but since humans are mammals, and animal studies are used to predict health outcomes in humans, understanding a human as a mammal, to know the differences and similarities of human with other mammals should be important for a medical professional.

Articles on whole biological species are more inclined towards pure biology than an article about a mammalian organ, which is more inclined to medicine.

Since biology and medicine are intertwined, that is why Wikipedia does not have a separate GA nomination for biology. The two words in the name of the section "Biology and medicine" are sorted that way not because biology is most important, they are just so alphabetically. And since you have submitted it to the section of biology and medicine, you have to assume that you may receive feedback on medical input.

Maxim Masiutin (talk) 20:45, 19 November 2023 (UTC)


 * The article is more related to veterinary medicine because of the diseases section. It's related to medicine just because human kidney is mammalian and the aricle mentions some diseases that humans can suffer from. As for treatment and diagnosis, those topics are beyond anatomy and biology. You can open any disease article by appropriate wikilink to see how it can be diagnosed and treated. As for specific diagnostic methods for the organ function, the article can briefly describe the glomerular filtration rate measurement (GFR) methods, if they are different from those of other vertebrates. But I haven't found a reliable source that describes GFR in context of mammals, nor compares it with the procedure in other animals. I don't think that this information is necessary for good article nomination. Also, glomerular filtration rate could be described in detail in parent article, but I don't know whether it is in the scope of an anatomy and biology-related article. D6194c-1cc (talk) 20:26, 22 November 2023 (UTC)