Talk:Mariska Hargitay/Archive 1

Archive 1

Connie Nielsen

During the last few months of her pregnancy, Mariska took a maternity leave from SVU and was temporarily replaced by Connie Nielsen.

Wasn't this part of a rumor? I never saw Connie Nielsen on SVU for the last few months it was on before the season finale, and it's not listed on her IMDB profile. ~ Wapiko

Well, they've already begun taping next season's shows, so this still may be true, as Hargitay won't be present at shootings and whatnot in the end of her pregnancy, so it's reasonable to assume she won't be in a few episodes. Michael 21:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Connie Nielsen's episodes will air as the 2nd-8th episodes of the eighth season of SVU... they were filmed in the late spring/early summer of 2006, after Mariska left for maternity leave. Production resumes with Mariska Hargitay this September. This information can be verified on Mariska's offical website (mariska.com) in the Blog section, Chris Meloni has also discussed this issue on several talk shows this month as well as in People and TV Guide Magazine.

Yes, indeed. Michael 04:26, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

To my understanding, the reason will be explained in the first episode, and she'll leave in the next. Michael 08:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

official website and blog

hey could someone do a "Links" section and add her official website and blog. i hear that is where she posted her baby and current info.68.102.37.191 03:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

You can do that, actually. We don't have the links. Why don't you post them here? Michael 03:39, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation

I corrected the pronunciation of Mariska's first name. In Hungarian, the stress is always on the first syllable. 66.108.4.183 15:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC) ALLen Roth

Not a huge deal, but according to Mariska, on her offical web site (www.mariska.com/ask) she states that the stress is on the second syllable. Here's the quote from her site. "How do you pronounce your name? Ma-rish-ka. The accent is on the second syl-LA-ble. (Get it?) The reason that the “s” is pronounced like “sh” is because the name is Hungarian, like my Dad’s name, Miklos (That’s Mik-losh—you can understand why everyone called him Mickey!)" Perhaps, your comment is a typo, because on the page it does seem to be written out correctly.

Parentage

You need to find a place where that one actor (whoever he is) actually claims to be Mariska's father. Also, saying she looks like him is a personal opinion. I think she looks a fair amount like Mickey Hargitay, with some of Jayne's features also. Wahkeenah 12:34, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I no longer own the book, but in a biography of Jayne by her former manager entitled Here they are, Jayne Masnfield, Mariska's parentage is gone over in great detail. Jayne herself is quoted by friends naming that italian fellow as her father. It was never a secret. of course, for it to be included in a encyclopdia, we'd need the appropriate citations. Lisapollison 19:52, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Without that, it cannot be included. Michael 19:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I realize that. I added the info so someody who has access to the book can look it up. There are many other primary sources. if someody really cared, they could find them. I don't really care. I just gave the info. Here's the books info in case anyone wants to look it up.

Here They Are Jayne Mansfield by Raymond Strait # ISBN: 1561711462

Lisapollison 07:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

The information is on page 202 of "Here They Are: Jayne Mansfield" by Raymond Strait (S.P.I. Books, 1992), ISBN 1-56171-146-2. The biography, which the L. A. Times called "convincing and straightforward ... an unusual book well worth attention," was written by JM's onetime press agent. On the page cited, Mansfield, then in Germany filming "Homesick for St. Pauli", told Strait that Nelson Sardelli (her former boyfriend) was the father of her unborn child but that Mickey Hargitay (whom she had divorced in the hope of marrying Sardelli) knew this and had decided to remarry her anyway. The information is further discussed on pages 167-168, 170, 173-174, 195, 197 (where she tells Sardelli that she's pregnant), 203, 207, 208 (the birth of Mariska, whom Jayne Mansfield preferred to call Maria), and 224-225 (where Jayne Mansfield tells L.A. police, during a divorce dispute with Hargitay over the new baby, that Sardelli is the real father). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.130.26 (talk • contribs)

The fact that the L.A. Times, which is hardly an unbiased journal, finds the book in general to be credible, does not prove that this specific allegation is either true or credible or worthy of inclusion here. All we have is this author's word on this, since Jayne is not around to answer. Now, if he had her on tape saying that, then he might have something. But if not, then it's just the author's word, unconfirmed. And the last line you mention is telling; maybe she invented that story as part of the divorce dispute. Wahkeenah 23:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

What sort of biography or memoir, then, would you consider credible? You stated above, the requirement for a citation. Now you have one and now seem unwilling to believe it has any credibility. It would be interesting to know what your criteria actually are for this. The author of the book was her manager and deeply involved in her divorce actions, romantic entanglements, personal finances, etc, for more than 10 years, and quotes from legal documents, memos, and other papers. Which would seem to make him an admirable source. 67.142.130.48 15:54, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

A better question is, what is the purpose in putting rumors and gossip into this article? Is this an encylopedia, or is it National Enquirer? Wahkeenah 16:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

To be more specific, wikipedia has a policy of being "careful" about the living-persons biographies, in order to avoid libel suits. Is it really worth risking a lawsuit just to push that unsubstantiated claim that someone else is her father? Just because some guy says something in a book, even if Jayne told him it was true, doesn't make it true, nor does it make it worthy of inclusion here. Genetic evidence is the only way to verify this, and unless there is some public record confirming that someone else is her biological father, it remains nothing more than gossip and potential lawsuit material. Wahkeenah 16:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

As for the divorce dispute incident you seem skeptical about, the book, which was the first Mansfield bio on the market (and arguably the most comprehensive, except perhaps for "Sexbomb", which was published in 1988), notes that in 1964, Mickey Hargitay's mother disappeared with baby Mariska (whom Jayne preferred to call Maria) while JM and Mickey Hargitay were in the middle of negotiating an acrimonious divorce settlement. The book states: "During intermission, Mickey sent word that he would like to talk to me. If Jayne wanted the baby back, it would cost her. I would tell her, however, that the baby was all right and in a safe place with his mother. Once he had his share of things, he would bring the baby back, and there would be no more problems with him. He wanted $25,000 plus a share of the properties. The properties in question did not include the pink palace, howver; he wanted her to have that. 'I built the pink palace for her and the children,' Mickey insisted as if seeking some self-redemption for his actions. When I relayed the message to Jayne, she insisted that Matt [Cimber, her latest lover and soon-to-be-husband] sit in as I explained Mickey's demands. And then, everybody got into the act—Charlie Goldring, Mickey's lawyers, Jayne's lawyers, even the Bel-Air Patrol, a private investigative organization. While the lawyers argued, Jayne filed a police report in which she accused Mickey of abducting the baby. She even told the police who the child's real father was, though they weren't interested in that aspect. That was something personal, as one officer suggested, and she would do herself a favor by keeping that information quiet. But far from keeping anything quiet, the whole battle would be front page news the following day." (Straight, pages 224-225, and confirmed via contemporary newspaper articles of the incident and subsequent Hargitay-Mansfield divorce). As per your question "What is the purpose of putting rumors and gossip in this article?", I agree entirely if the information stated is published in a source widely considered to be without merit, ie a gossip column or a notably inaccurate or unscrupulous tabloid, et cetera. But this is done all across Wiki, particularly so in articles on subjects such as Marie of Rumania (who admitted to friends that all her children were not her husband's, though we have no DNA to prove that long-dead lady's assertions, other than her own letters and her friends' diaries, which were quoted by the esteemed biographer Hannah Pakula). There are numerous other instances in Wiki, such as Princess Stephanie of Monaco and the suspected parentage of at least one of her children, or the existence of (unproven) illegitimate children of, say, Kim Jong-il, all of which are unproven in scientific fashion (ie DNA) but nonetheless published in Wiki citing information gleaned from apparently responsible books, news organizations, etc. The problem is that this article is about someone living, obviously. However, if that is indeed the issue, then Wiki's guidelines should stately, quite narrowly, what information, however well-sourced and cited, should ever be published in a living person's article within their lifetime and when it is appropriate, in these situations, if ever, to use modifiers such as "according to" and "allegedly" (which are used widely across Wiki), etc, and then to properly cite an apparently responsible source. The author of the Mansfield biography does not appear to have any publicly known lawsuits against his works nor does he seem to be considered a hack or accused of unprofessionalism or promulgating unfactual material. In the three decades since his career as Mansfield's manager, Strait has produced more than two-dozen bestselling and largely well-reviewed biographies of film industry types; he also co-authored Rosemary Clooney's authorized memoirs in 1982.67.142.130.48 17:14, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Considering the viciousness you're describing, Jayne could have made up the story just to spite Mickey. Maybe there have been no suits because Mariska just doesn't want to get into it, as it would be a major distraction and bring nothing but ill will. She considered Mickey Hargitay to be her father, so maybe she knows something you and that biographer don't. What I don't get is why this unproven, gossipy allegation is so important that it needs to be included here. The only possible purpose is to besmirch Mariska Hargitay. Wikipedia is supposed to be above that sort of thing. Wahkeenah 17:25, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I have no interest in besmirching anybody; I merely wanted to find out what your opinions are re the discussion. That was all. End of discussion.67.142.130.48 18:10, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Wakeenah is acting unreasonably. The person who keeps citing the biography is making a much, much better series of arguments. Wakeenah just keeps ignoring the arguments (perhaps because he or she is not able to follow them?) and repeating the same irrelevant points over and over again. The fact is, this information is far better souced than most information in WP entries of living people, and it should be included. Why? Because it's well sourced and, even more importantly, almost definitely true. Wakeenah, you are acting in an un-WP manner. Find one WP rule this violates, or else stop blocking the addition of this information. 69.112.101.41 00:24, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Furthermore, there are now three WP users who want to include the information and who have given what in my opinion are compelling arguments as to why. Wakeenah has failed to do so and is in fact an army of one. Unless others agree with Wakeenah, I am going to come back in a few days and add the information from the bio described above. That seems to be the consensus, unless something changes in the next few days. 69.112.101.41 00:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

It is Mickey Hargitay's name on the birth certificate of Mariska Hargitay, therefore there is no need for Hollywood gossip or rumor based on a book by a tawdry Hollywood press agent.

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The above comment was unsigned. One or possibly two people seem obsessed with removing this information even though the clear consensus on this talk page is that it should be included as exactly what it is: an assertion by Jayne Mansfield, as sourced secondhand in a reputable biography.

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Second name

There is no Hungarian name Magdolina. Magdalena in Hungarian is: Magdolna, without the i. If her name is really Magdolina, than it's not an authentic Hungarian forename, only a derivation. Pannonius (talk) 17:13, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, Mickey is not a Hungarian name, either. Kope (talk) 14:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Risky Business

I am fairly confident that she was one of the the Tom Cruise character's friends in this film sitting at the diner? table. Why did that entry get removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.173.110 (talk) 03:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Love Guru

Can somebody add a reference to the 2008 movie, The Love Guru? In that film Mariska Hargitay is constantly used as a tongue-in-cheek Hindu greeting and the actress herself has a cameo appearance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.63.153.106 (talk) 02:54, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Picture

Is this really the best picture? could someone look for a better one? I have no idea how to tell whats allowed and not but there has to be a better pic than that one... cuz wow....

Can someone find a picture that is public domain and allowed to be put up here? I'm not quite sure of the copyright guidelines of what is and isn't allowed to be used, as far as pictures go. I will look them up again- there are lots of pictures out there. But if anyone has a usable one on hand....

--Nelliebellie 03:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

 Done --Mike Allen ^{talk · contribs} 20:08, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

language skills

Your article mentions she's speaking Spanish, based on the word of a tv executive. Her personal website however (only) lists English, Hungarian, Italian and French. So, who's right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.180.117.3 (talk) 08:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

A pickle indeed. Well, her website doesn't state that she doesn't speak Spanish. I all likelihood, this was a mistake on the part of the Neal Baer, who made the assertion that Hargitay speaks Spanish. But per this policy, Wikipedia is concerned with what is verifiable, not necessarily what is true. If we had something that said categorically that she doesn't speak Spanish, I'd say remove it. However, all we have is one source saying she does and another which doesn't contradict it. Therefore, I say it should stay (at least until someone comes up with a source refuting it). faithless (^speak) 08:27, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

The current issue of Good Houskeeping lists her language abilities as Italian, French, Hungarian. It does not list Spanish. Doesn't make much sense to assert she may speak Spanish simply because it isn't listed. They listed what she speaks - if she spoke Spanish, it would be listed. Common sense, eh? I could claim she speaks Japanese and claim she just might because it doesn't say anywhere that she doesn't. Which is quite silly. Point is, she doesn't speak Spanish.

The idea that she could speak Spanish most likely comes from her character on Special Victims Unit. The character spoke Spanish in some episodes (yet the character later claimed she couldn't in another episode). I never seen claims she could speak Spanish until her fans confused the character's speaking Spanish ability with the actress. Since then, many fans wrongly believe the actress herself speaks Spanish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.229.132.170 (talk) 18:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Particulars about her ethnic origin

Apparently, somebody has already brought up that Hargitay's last name means "of Hargita". I had wondered about this for some time - if her last name did, indeed, allude to that still Hungarian-majority county in Romania. If her surname is truly indicative of her ethnic origins on her father's side, I wonder if she is, then, Székely. Does anybody know?Miloluvr (talk) 16:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

There is a possibility that her father's family originated in Hargita, but it is nothing more than speculation. Lot of families with foreign names changed it to Hungarian in the first half of the XX. century. For example, my father was born as Sztarek, then the whole branch became Szebényi, which means "of Szebény" but that doesn't mean we have any connection to that village. Anyway, calling a székely Hungarian is perfectly OK for them. Pannonius (talk) 17:13, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Should we add "German" to Joe Namath's article because his father's name Németh means German? 184.96.247.138 (talk) 23:18, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Hargitay will be in every episode of 2011-2012 season of SVU

So said NBC chairman Bob Greenblatt to reporters at the Aug 1 Television Critics Association press tour. See, e.g., Zap2It: 'Law & Order: SVU': Mariska Hargitay isn't going anywhere, NBC chief says and similar news sources. Her filming schedule may be reduced due to her family's newly-adopted baby. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.233.86.237 (talk) 12:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

True Crime: New York City

Could somebody please add to her filmography her voicing the character Deena Dixon in the video game True Crime: New York City? According to the IMDB, it was indeed her who voiced the character. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.92.202.34 (talk) 08:14, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Sites with user-generated content like imdb cannot be used as sources under Wikipedia:USERG. Nightscream (talk) 09:03, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

It was also on Yahoo and a few other sites, as well as the True Crime wikia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.92.202.34 (talk) 14:41, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Date of Death

Her father died 18 days after she won the Emmy in 2006. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.34.211 (talk) 12:06, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Mariska Hargitay's age when Jayne Mansfield Died

Mariska was three not three and a half years old when her mother Jayne died. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.34.211 (talk) 22:54, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

The Perfect Weapon

Can someone insert said film into the filmography list/link.

Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.219.26.86 (talk) 12:05, 29 November 2012 (UTC)