User talk:MikeAllen





Reverting vandalism
Thank you for reverting the edits made by that IPv6 to the release dates of upcoming films. In future it would help stop the vandal faster if you could drop a few warning templates on their talk page per WP:WARNVAND. Thanks! —Smalljim 22:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Gnomes (upcoming film)


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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Title credits vs. scrolling credits
In response to your edit on the Abigail (2024) cast section, I was referring to the title credits, not the scrolling credits. Yes, Matthew Goode is in the scrolling credits at the end of the film, but he is not in the title credits at the beginning of the film. He is also not on the poster's billing block. We usually do not include cast members who aren't on the billing block or in the title credits in the cast list, instead mentioning them in the prose underneath the list. Bluerules (talk) 16:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * The cast list should go by the order (and credited roles) of the end credits scroll (this is how I have always seen it on Wikipedia since 2009). I don't see a reason to drop one actor down under the bullet list. I mean I'm not going to fight over it though. It does look tacky.  Mike   Allen   16:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree the cast list should go by the order of the scrolling / ending credits. But the guidelines advise us against including every cast member if there are too many. Generally, we limit the cast list to those who are on the billing block of the poster and / or in the title credits to prevent the list from becoming too long and add anyone else of note to prose underneath the cast section. Abigail only has nine credited cast members, so there's obviously room for Goode, but I'm not convinced his placement in the list is warranted since he only has a cameo appearance at the end and he's not on the poster billing block or in the title credits. It's usually the norm to put cast members like Goode outside of the cast list; the Creep (2014 film) article, which has GA status, puts Katie Aselton outside of the cast list and that film only has two credited cast members. Bluerules (talk) 19:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It sounds more like an editorial decision for what works for that page. Not really a general consensus. Katie Aselton makes an uncredited appearance (which according to WP:FILMCAST, uncredited roles should be sourced), Goode's role is credited. Also, WP:FILMCAST states "Alternatively, a list may be accompanied by prose that discusses only a handful of the cast".  Mike   Allen   21:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:FILMCAST says uncredited roles should be sourced (thanks for reminding me to add one to the Creep article), but it doesn't say uncredited roles shouldn't be in the cast list. You're correct it's an editorial decision and what I've generally seen on featured film articles is only the cast members on the poster or the title credits go into the cast list. Like I said, Goode isn't in either. If we were following the practices on those FAs, Goode would be in the prose. FILMCAST says "only a handful of the cast" should be in the prose to avoid the prose from being too long, just like the cast list shouldn't be too long. Goode would obviously fit in there. Bluerules (talk) 02:08, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Thelma (2024 film)
From what I heard the movie is based on a real life experience that actually happened to the grandmother of the director, does that not count? Ebb1993 (talk) 10:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)


 * No, not according to the original research policy. We need reliable sources to confirm this. Thanks.  Mike   Allen   14:18, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * https://www.indiewire.com/news/trailers/thelma-trailer-june-squibb-1235002709/
 * https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/thelma-director-talks-true-story-015158878.html
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbM4qaIe11M
 * Good enough for you? Ebb1993 (talk) 16:43, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * This site seriously needs to stop reverting my edits. It's the truth! Ebb1993 (talk) 17:01, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * So now do you believe me? Ebb1993 (talk) 21:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It’s not about it being good enough for “me”. It’s Wikipedia’s policy. The WP:BURDEN is on you to provide the sources if you add info.  Mike   Allen   21:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to do that. I mainly just add categories that I find suitable. But if the director says the movie is based on a true story... Ebb1993 (talk) 00:04, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Should we just wait for the movie to come out first? Ebb1993 (talk) 16:55, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I put the categories back. Please, it's from what I heard. Ebb1993 (talk) 11:24, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject Film Award

 * Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it!  Mike   Allen   20:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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Hello! I need help!
It's ok if you can't, and I'm not trying to advertise, but can you help me with Draft:Welcome Suica? I can't find someone to work on it. GAMESFanatic10 (talk) 07:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Nosferatu
Hi Mike,

I am a Focus Features representative - the poster I have uploaded to the Nosferatu page is the official poster, you can see it reflected on IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes and other official sources from our team. Please let me know if you need further information. Isabellateamclick (talk) 20:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello, I presumed it was fan made since it's not on the Focus Features press site.  Mike  Allen   20:24, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

The "Asteroid City" sources seemed insightful...not sure how to add it.
I saw the section I had added was deleted. However, the names and locations really match the references mentioned. Any insight on how to add it to the article is greatly appreciated. Starlighsky (talk) 13:17, 28 June 2024 (UTC)


 * But none of those sources mention "Asteroid City" though. You are comparing the film to other things, which is original research.  Mike   Allen   12:11, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Can I post it here on the Talk page for others to consider it? Starlighsky (talk) 12:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Absolutely.  Mike  Allen   12:22, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Starlighsky (talk) 12:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice
Hi Theknine2 suggest that not to use "Label" and "Region" columns via updated table. Your comments would be appreciated. However there's two other user objected over updated table, so I suggested that change "Label" to "Distributor" column via original table. Regards. 2001:D08:2931:6101:C55F:125:EF2C:5DB0 (talk) 15:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I know nothing about albums MOS.  Mike  Allen   15:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:59, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Sub genre?
Hey again, I saw that you removed ‘psychological horror’ on the mother article for it being a ‘sub genre’, now idk why this is a problem since many film articles on Wikipedia use allmovie sub genres all the time, also wouldn’t ‘fantasy drama’ be considered a sub genre too?, many people would see this film more as a horror than a drama, help me to understand why you did this please thanks (also this isn’t meant to sound hateful, im just wondering why you removed my edit) Pomniismywife (talk) 08:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Do you have third party reliable sources that describe it as a psychological horror [other than database sites]? I’ll go through the film reviews later and see what comes up.  Mike   Allen   10:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Sock?
I noticed the recent revert and in good faith and asked the user what exactly they thought I was doing they believed was disruptive.

Belatedly it sank in that the tone was very familiar and I realized User:Soraxyn is the username User:Nyxaros spelled backwards.

User:Nyxaros seems to be be angry that I exist as an anonymous IP user (which is allowed by Wikipedia rules) and might be trying to make some kind of point by creating a WP:SOCK account. Hopefully this was just a once off bad idea that he will not repeat. -- 109.79.71.204 (talk) 15:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)


 * That account is definitely you. Why is MikeAllen relevant to this obvious IP block evasion mess? Sorry about this MikeAllen. ภץאคгöร  16:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * When I get home I’ll explain why I reverted that account and said the “They have no block”. At least the main account they once used was never blocked. I hate editing on mobile here.  Mike   Allen   19:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Early last year I ran into the 109.7x Ireland IPs on a talk page. I did not know if I was talking to one or two people, hence my response that I wasn't speaking with jumping IPs. I soon began seeing a lot of their edits pop up on my watchlist. I read that at one point that they had an account, but now wished to edit anonymously. So I did some backtracking and found their original account, which was not blocked (can't remember the exact name off the top of my head, but believe it started with an "H"). I vaguely remember them when I started editing back in 2010-2012. They do generally edit in good faith, usually in regards to the WP:FILM's manual of style, and frequently engage on talk pages. I'm not sure why their latest IP is blocked for "block evasion", because none of those sock accounts match their editing style, at all. Their IP always starts with a 109.7x, and it does change regularly, but not their editing pattern.  Mike   Allen   21:54, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * So who is Soraxyn? Blocked for being WP:LTA; they are obviously not 109.7x, and apparently not Nyxaros. But in their single edit summary, Soraxyn uses "disruptive IP hopper", a phrase used recently by Nyxaros and not by 109.7x, who as Mike Allen noted has a very specific editing style. 70.163.220.139 (talk) 07:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Since the IP in question keeps pinging me from other IPs on their talk page and dragging this out, I will write here about this issue, hopefully for the last time. I don't think it's really accurate to claim that the edits made by two IPs starting with 109.7x, which made similar changes to similar articles (including film & TV) from almost identical locations, are obviously not the same. Are you suggesting that the IP blocked in April saw this IP and created an impersonation of me out of the blue to get them blocked? Not to mention writing things like "why I edit anonymous is because I want to make it about the encyclopedia, not the person" while repeatedly claiming that I've personally attacked a lot of editors, which is clearly making it about the person, looks like a dead giveaway to me. A highly suspicious behavior seen in many socks that I personally reported. Multiple admins have blocked these IP addresses, I'm sure they can check and take care of the situation if this goes on longer. ภץאคгöร  18:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I was just pointing out that I don't believe this IP is also the blocked sockmaster (User:GaA24) that apparently also uses a similar IP.  Mike  Allen   20:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

MM/IAWK
Hi Mike, We've noticed that you rolled back 2 edits (inclusion of production company Fourth Culture Films) on the titles Midas Man and It's a Wonderful Knife. We understand the confusion since we don't insist on being named on all publicity. However, those are legitimate credits and those have been added to the sides again. Please leave those there. Feel free though to ask any questions you may have to help you verify it. Many thanks for all the work you are doing on ours and all the other films. Kind regards, SW FourthCulture (talk) 10:50, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * If you are working for the company, then you should not be editing the articles relating to said company. Please read WP:COI. If this continues I will escalate it to the admins. Thank you.  Mike  Allen   14:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * The company was credited as “in association with”. Not production company, which is what goes on the infobox. We do not list executive producers there, so we do not list their companies. Also, keep in mind no one controls Wikipedia pages, especially not PR teams.  Mike   Allen   14:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Deleted Adam article questioning?
Hey MikeAllen, why did you delete my Adam Stanheight article that I spent a lot of time into researhing sources and making? Now in your message, you say that Adam's character is not "main" enough to warrant an article, but Eric Matthews and David Tapp have articles. Eric's last appearance was in Saw V, back in 2008, meanwhile Adam is still being referenced to in the newest addition to the series, Saw X, released in 2023 and Tapp only physically appears in one film, being Saw, meanwhile Leigh Whannell reprised his role in Saw III. Reply as soon as you can.

EDIT: After writing this, I realised you restored the article which I thank you for. You can basically ignore my message. Regards. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janwmwdxjk (talk • contribs) 19:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Content dispute on It Ends with Us (film)
Hello there, fellow editor MikeAllen. I'm FloorMadeOuttaFloor. Forgive me if this discussion feels too lengthy at points, all I ask is basic guidance on how to mitigate and resolve an ongoing content dispute on the article It Ends with Us (film).

As can also be seen on Talk:It Ends with Us (film), editor PepGuardi has been reverting mine as well as fellow editor Οἶδα's edits related to Columbia Pictures being mentioned in the distributor section of the infobox rather than the producer section. Despite all three editors trying to come to a reasonable conclusion to help find a solution to this problem, PepGuardi seems adamant in their reasoning: the sources they have cited are ambiguous as to whether Sony was in fact a co-producer on this film and despite Οἶδα and I emphatically stating that Deadline Hollywood has confirmed the film to be a negative pickup for Sony, PepGuardi has rejected this explanation solely on grounds that the WGA rejected producer Wayfarer Studios' appeal that the film was an indie in conformity with the former's guidelines. While this reasoning does seem fallacious at multiple points and a possibly misinterpreted synthesis of sources, I doubt my own conclusion due to a lack of actually cited sources.

While we have attempted to mitigate this issue on the best terms possible, efforts have borne little fruit. I will admit candidly I am not the best at such arbitration, nor do I mean for this message to be a plea for mercy: all I hope for is an amicable settlement with no harm done on either sides involved. I have made my case as concise as possible and while there is not really a rush to end the debate, it is for the better to come to a justified conclusion to prevent any further edit warring (which has been relatively little in this case). I shall wait patiently till all is calm. Cheers. FloorMadeOuttaFloor (Converse here) 08:23, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello! I will look over it when I get home later today.  Mike   Allen   16:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)