Talk:Mark Selby

Infobox
My updates to reflect the new career winnings were rolled back, as the figure really is career earnings as of the beginning of the 2006/2007 season. Fair enough, but perhaps this should be noted in the box? (on |his profile page it says "(up to start of 2006/07 season)") Another thing: didn't he have a break >139 this tournament? Elsand 00:18, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Please, someone edit the bit about Mark's personal life as I'm a new person here and wasn't sure about how to add this to his page :( Also, I have no idea how to cite the source as these facts were mentioned during the final of the World Championship yesterday (Eurosport, Russian version). Jana VB 11:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Family history
From a Channel 4 documentary, it appears that a close relative of The Elephant Man married a Mr. Selby. As both Mark and Joseph are from Leicester, I wonder if there is a connection? --MartinUK 23:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Nickname
The fact that a journalist referred to Mark Selby as "The Peacock" does not make that a valid nickname. Journalistic licence is not gospel and that name has never been used anywhere else. For that reason, I reverted it. However, if multiple references to "The Peacock" can be found, please let's have them and it can be restored. bigpad (talk) 09:23, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Selby has way too many nicknames listed on the article. Could we just pick a few, or the main ones? If I make up a nickname for Selby, can I put it on the list too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.78.34.6 (talk) 14:54, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --5.65.246.86 (talk) 21:10, 6 May 2014 (UTC) Why is there no page for World Snooker number 1 Mark Selby?

Age when turned pro?
In the introduction we have "Selby...began his professional snooker career in 1998 at the age of 15". But in the Early Years section we have "His dad died of cancer when he was 16, two months before he turned professional". They can't both be right! Molinari (talk) 16:51, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The confusion arises because Selby began playing on the UK Tour in 1998, when he was 15, and joined the main pro tour in 1999, when he was 16. The UK Tour at the time was for professional players ranked outside the top 96. So, it's correct to say that Selby was a professional at age 15. He just wasn't a main tour player until the following year. The problem could above be resolved by editing the sentence to read "two months before he joined the main professional tour." Carton828 (talk) 20:41, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

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Full list of ranking titles in lead
I actually think IP 89.204.239.215 may have a point! Is there any particular need to list every ranking event he has won? There are quite a lot in that list and it just looks like a veritable sea of blue. We've already stated in 1st para that he's won 18 ranking titles, but is it really necessary to provide the full list further down? I'm not sure it's all that interesting to the casual reader. We could just say he won his first ranking title at the Welsh Open in 2008, and his most recent ranking win was at the European Masters in September 2020. Rodney Baggins (talk) 14:02, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree. Completely OTT to list them all in the lead. Nigej (talk) 14:47, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, probably could be condensed a bit, but not removed entirely (which is what the IP wished to do). Might I suggest that instead of " are the Welsh Open in 2008, the Shanghai Masters in 2011", etc that we just do "winner of Welsh Open, Shanghai Masters, China Open (three times)" or similar to condense? I think a vague amount of info on the events that he has won is quite relevant, the issue is that he has won too many to say them all by name.Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:34, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm still of the view that we shouldn't be listing them at all. Give the total and the details can go in the rest of the article. If someone's won two or three events we can list them but listing them for someone who's won dozens makes no sense. Triple crown events can spelt out in more detail perhaps, but again, need condensing for someone like Ronnie. Nigej (talk) 18:03, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, well here's my proposal Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:45, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Mark Anthony Selby (born 19 June 1983) is an English professional snooker player. A three-time World Snooker Champion, Selby won the event in 2014, 2016, and 2017 and has won 18 ranking titles, placing him joint sixth (with Neil Robertson) on the all-time list of ranking tournament wins. He has held the world number one position six times during his career, having first topped the snooker world rankings in September 2011, and was number one in the world rankings for more than four years continuously between February 2015 and March 2019.

Having joined the main professional snooker tour in 1999 at the age of 16, after winning the England under-15 championship. He was runner-up to John Higgins at the 2007 World Snooker Championship, but went on to win all of snooker's Triple Crown events at least twice, having won three Masters titles (2008, 2010, and 2013), two UK Championships (2012 and 2016), and three World Championships. Selby also won the Welsh Open, the Shanghai Masters, the German Masters, the China Open on three occasions, the Paul Hunter Classic, the International Championship twice, the China Championship, the European Masters and three of the four Home Nations Series events.

Known as a patient, tough competitor with strong safety play, Selby is also a prolific break-builder and has compiled more than 600 century breaks in his professional career. His nickname, "The Jester from Leicester", was given to him by snooker compere Richard Beare. Selby is also a pool player. He was the 2006 World Eight-ball Pool Federation champion and runner-up at the Chinese Eight-ball World Championship in 2015.


 * That looks OK to me Lee. I would prefer a slight tense tweak from past tense ("Selby also won...") to present perfect tense ("Selby has also won...") Rodney Baggins (talk) 21:18, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I noticed you made some other changes, I was only looking at the ranking titles list. I like the "A three-time World Snooker Champion," at start of second sentence, but then I don't think we should list them until lower down with the other triple crown dates, so I would make this "A three-time World Snooker Champion, Selby has won 18 ranking titles, placing him..." I also think "but went on to win..." after the 2007 runner-up statement makes it sound like that was not an achievement, i.e. "despite being runner-up to Higgins in 2007, he managed to do all this stuff afterwards..." So, this would be my proposal for the lead. Rodney Baggins (talk) 09:12, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Mark Anthony Selby (born 19 June 1983) is an English professional snooker player. A three-time World Snooker Champion, Selby has won 18 ranking titles, placing him joint sixth (with Neil Robertson) on the all-time list of ranking tournament wins. He has held the world number one position six times, having first topped the snooker world rankings in September 2011, and was number one in the world rankings for more than four years continuously between February 2015 and March 2019.

Selby joined the main professional snooker tour in 1999 at the age of 16, after winning the England under-15 championship. He was runner-up to John Higgins at the 2007 World Snooker Championship, and has since won all of snooker's Triple Crown events at least twice, having won three Masters titles (2008, 2010, and 2013), two UK Championships (2012 and 2016), and three World Championships (2014, 2016, and 2017). He has also won the Welsh Open, the Shanghai Masters, the German Masters, the China Open (three times), the Paul Hunter Classic, the International Championship (twice), the China Championship, the European Masters, and three of the four Home Nations Series events.

Known as a patient, tough competitor with strong safety play, Selby is also a prolific break-builder and has compiled more than 600 century breaks in his professional career. His nickname, "The Jester from Leicester", was given to him by snooker compere Richard Beare. Selby is also a pool player; he was the 2006 World Eight-ball Pool Federation champion and runner-up at the Chinese Eight-ball World Championship in 2015.


 * I'd sign off on that - seems suitable succinct whilst also giving a good overview of what they have won. It bares repeating that aside from the Triple Crown events, the biggest deal is the winning of ranking tournaments. It might also be prudent to have the total amount of professional titles stated in the lede. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:42, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

"630 (as of 1 October 2020)"
Surely this can't be right. 630 seems to be the number at the end of the 2019/20 season. He'd made some more by 1 October, eg 4 in the European Masters. Nigej (talk) 21:05, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2021
The year of birth is incorrect. You have 1883 instead of 1983 109.249.181.57 (talk) 22:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I looked throughout the entire article and used "search in the page" and 1883 never came up. Link20XX (talk) 22:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Nickname
I added the nickname “Granite” which was used extensively during the recent world championships. I also checked and found repeated usage of “Granite” in the press. However, the reference to granite was soon deleted without explanation that I can see. Can the moderator who deleted it please comment. Thanks Timmytimtimmy (talk) 09:44, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Granite is not a nickname, it's just a descriptive word used by commentators when a player is being particularly resilient, showing tough matchplay. I can't find a source that states that Selby has specifically picked it up as a nickname. I think it's one of John Parrott's favourite words. Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:55, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree with Rodney Baggins. See eg MOS:BADNICK, although not directly relevant here since that relates to the lede. The fact that sports journalists refer him as such does not make it a nickname IMO. Generally, we already have way too many of these "nicknames". He's the "Jester from Leicester". Surely that's enough. Ronnie is "The Rocket". As a general rule we should stick to one per person. Nigej (talk) 19:16, 23 June 2021 (UTC)