Talk:Mary Shelley bibliography

The Pole
Gittings and Manton (164–65) suggest that Claire Clairmont co-authored this with Mary Shelley. According to them, it was published in The English Annual for 1836 as by "the author of Frankenstein", and the two shared the payment. If, as our bibliography states, it was published in 1832, this would scotch that idea, though.qp10qp (talk) 22:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I have seen no other discussion of its co-authorship. Should we add a footnote? Awadewit (talk) 17:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Via Google Books, I found a good discussion of the issue in Charles Robinson's 1990 edition of the Collected Tales and Stories, p. 399. . He says (aha!) that it was published in both The Court Magazine (1832) and The English Annual (1836). He traces the partial attribution to Clairmont back to Bradford A. Booth (1938) and endorses it. Booth and Robinson are cited (Google Books) in the entry for The Pole in The Cambridge Bibliography of English Literature (1999), p. 1075. qp10qp (talk) 20:52, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page not moved (non-admin closure) Cloudz 679 16:38, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

List of works by Mary Shelley → Mary Shelley bibliography – Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:08, 14 November 2011 (UTC) Name change for WP wide consistency of author bibliography titles per advice of WikiProject Bibliographies. Mike Cline (talk) 16:15, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose this is not a list of works about Mary Shelly, it's a list of works by Mary Shelley. 70.24.248.23 (talk) 06:57, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment Indeed the opposer is correct, this is a list of works by Mary Shelly and should properly be entitled Mary Shelly bibliography as an author bibliography. Whereas if this list was of works about Mary Shelly, it should properly be entitled Bibliography of Mary Shelley as a topical bibliography.  This proposed rename is aimed at bringing consistency in article names to the locus of articles that are author bibliographies.  Consistency is one of the five primary naming criteria in our titling policy WP:PRINCIPALNAMINGCRITERIA. Currently, 94% of the articles (245) in Category:Bibliographies by author are entitled Author bibliography.  It seems logical that we try and bring along the other 16% in a measured way.  This is what this nom in about. --Mike Cline (talk) 14:55, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment The distinction between "Shelley biblio" and "Biblio of Shelley" is as clear as mud. Using regular English language grammar, the two are frequently equivalent. That the current "consistent" names are so undistinguishing is rather disappointing. Rather, the current standard is substandard, and should be rethought. 70.24.248.23 (talk) 21:25, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. Could we please have spelling fixed in these RMs? I have corrected two misspelt words in the proposed title. They are a distraction we can do without; and in the case of "Shelly" it can appear as if that change is indeed intended – as more historically accurate, or whatever. N oetica Tea? 22:15, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I notice at WT:WikiProject Bibliographies that there is controversy over a mass rename of biblio/list of works articles, so the consistency claimed appears to be a newly created consistency based on a new project's recent guideline. 70.24.248.23 (talk) 06:34, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Please note the that mass renaming alluded to above was done by User:Curb Chain unilaterally, and without any association with the WikiProject Bibliographies. Please read ANI discussions  and .  Additionally, User:70.24.248.23 has conveinently ignored the fact that Consistency is one of the five WP:PRINCIPALNAMINGCRITERIA contained in our titling policy. Within the Category:Bibliographies by author there are 244 entries.  232 of those entries ~(95%) are entitled Author bibiliography. Our WP:TITLE consistency policy reads: •Consistency – Does the proposed title follow the same pattern as those of similar articles? Many of these patterns are documented in the naming guidelines listed in the Specific-topic naming conventions box above, and ideally indicate titles that are in accordance with the principles behind the above questions.  The bibliography project merely points out this consistency policy for author bibliographies, it doesn't and hasn't imposed it as a newly created consistency as 70.24.248.23 alludes to above. --Mike Cline (talk) 14:25, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Very strongly oppose, The present title indicates the subject of this article precisely; similarly, one appropriate title for a bibliography of works on Shelley would be Bibliography of works on Mary Shelley. There are others, but these two are clear and immediately distinguishable from each other. JCScaliger (talk) 03:50, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose As far as I can see, the distinction between "John Doe bibliography" and "bibliography of John Doe" is absolutely artificial. Both could refer to works by or about John Doe. "List of works by John Doe" is an unambigous title or this kind of articles, just as "list of publications about John Doe" (or the above-proposed "Bibliography of works on John Doe") would be unambiguous. I note that similar discussions are taking place simultaneously at several list articles and strongly suggest that consensus should be obtained at the community level instead. At this point the results of these discussions vary per article and consistency would be vastly preferable. --Crusio (talk) 11:47, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.