Talk:Masdar

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I accidentlally added a bunch of text prematurely. What I added is not yet properly sourced and still needs a lot of editing. Please do not re-add without sourcing. Intermittentgardener (talk) 13:48, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

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Update lead
I am requesting that the lead paragraph include mention of Masdar's international scope, as referenced in this article which reports the company's operations in 40 countries. My suggestion is to add the word global before the "UAE-government owned" that is currently there. Thank you GreenDrake28 (talk) 09:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * ❌. I don't think that "global" is specifically informative. I see the article uses information from the link provided to describe how Masdar is involved in projects in over 40 countries, which is more specific. If you have additional suggestions to more fully flesh out the article introduction, I could see that being very reasonable.  Spencer T• C 23:17, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi . Thanks for taking a look at my edit request. It is my hope to make suggestions to add to and improve the article in the future, which could potentially affect the lead, but until then, I am happy to help with your suggestion. My understanding is that the intro should briefly include the most important information that is already found and sourced in the body of the article. Everything I suggest for the intro below is already in the article, except for the information about Masdar as a subsidiary of Mubadala, which I suggest be added to the first line of the history section as follows (addition in bold):
 * In 2006, the UAE government established Abu Dhabi Future Energy Company PJSC (Masdar) as a subsidiary of Mubadala Investment Company to diversify the energy resources and boost the local economy.
 * For the intro I suggest the following, but I am of course open to any suggestions or changes you might have to make it as compliant with Wikipedia style and guidelines as possible:
 * Masdar,(Arabic:مصدر‎), also known as the Abu Dhabi Future Energy Company is a UAE-government owned renewable energy company based in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates. It was founded in 2006 as a subsidiary of the UAE state-owned Mubadala Investment Company, and has developed and invested in sustainable projects in 40 countries.
 * Thanks so much. GreenDrake28 (talk) 12:33, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅  Spencer T• C 09:55, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Projects section update
Hi, I'd like to suggest an update to the Projects section with the following information and subsections:

Masdar has a presence in 40 different countries and has invested over US$30 billion in solar and wind projects. In November 2022, it signed a preliminary agreement to develop renewable energy projects in Jordan.

Masdar Renewables is involved in renewable energy projects and green hydrogen. Masdar aims to lead the global green hydrogen initiative and has partnered with energy companies, airlines and universities  with the goal of producing up to 1 million tons of green hydrogen per annum by 2030.

Masdar Renewables
Masdar Renewables follows the Dubai Clean Energy Strategy 2050. Its projects include the Shams Initiative, Dubai’s rooftop solar initiative, the Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum Solar Park in Dubai, The Smart Dubai Initiative, and the Al Dhafra Solar PV independent power producer in Abu Dhabi that aims to be the world's largest solar power plant. The company has also invested in wind power projects,  and waste-to-energy/landfill plants.

In 2013, Masdar partnered with the government of Seychelles to develop a 6 MW wind farm for Mahé Island. and started building a hybrid photovoltaic and natural gas concentrated solar power plant in Al Ain called Noor 1, and a 30 MW wind farm on Sir Bani Yas island.

Masdar holds 20% equity in the London Array, a large wind farm off the coast of Britain designed to generate up to 1,000 MW of power. Masdar invested in the 20 MW Gemasolar Thermosolar Plant and the twin 50 MW Valle 1 and Valle 2 solar power stations in Spain, which were developed by Torresol Energy, a joint venture between SENER and Masdar with respective equity stakes of 60% and 40%.

Abu Dhabi Sustainability Week
Masdar hosts Abu Dhabi Sustainability Week (ADSW), with a series of events focused on accelerating sustainable development. It gathers together policymakers, industry specialists, technology pioneers and sustainability leaders.

ADSW is an annual global event under the patronage of Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan focused on sustainable development and the advancement of economic, social, and environmental progress. The event is considered the largest sustainability gathering in the Middle East and works to advance environmental research, technology, industry, and policy developments.

Zayed Sustainability Prize
In 2008, Masdar introduced the Zayed Future Energy Prize, renamed the Zayed Sustainability Prize, awarding $4 million annually to global leaders in renewable energy and sustainability.

WiSER
At the 2015 ADSW, Masdar held the first year of the Women in Sustainability, Environment and Renewable Energy (WiSER) Annual Forum.

Youth 4 Sustainability
Masdar's Youth 4 Sustainability (Y4S) initiative includes two educational programs for young people to advance their participation in sustainability entrepreneurship, prepare for corporate involvement, and make technological developments.

, I appreciate your help with past requests and ask that you consider making these changes as well. Thank you GreenDrake28 (talk) 14:08, 16 November 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ Lewcm Talk to me! 08:42, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I removed this content because it's overwhelmingly sourced to sources that are not independent of Masdar. Thenightaway (talk) 13:52, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Content inclusion
I am asking the community to reconsider the inclusion of a Projects section. Revised content was included by but then removed by. I understand that sourcing is a problem. This suggested version includes information that is substantiated by third-party sources:

Projects
Masdar has a presence in 40 different countries and has invested over US$30 billion in solar and wind projects. In November 2022, it signed a preliminary agreement to develop renewable energy projects in Jordan.

Masdar Renewables is involved in renewable energy projects and Green hydrogen. Masdar aims to lead the global green hydrogen initiative and has partnered with energy companies, airlines and universities. with the goal of producing up to 1 million tonnes of green hydrogen per annum by 2030.

Masdar Renewables
Masdar Renewables follows the Dubai Clean Energy Strategy 2050. Its projects include the Shams Initiative, Dubai’s rooftop solar initiative, the Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum Solar Park in Dubai, The Smart Dubai Initiative, and the Al Dhafra Solar PV Independent Power Producer (IPP) in Abu Dhabi that aims to be the world's largest solar power plant. The company has also invested in wind power projects,   and waste-to-energy/landfill plants.

Wind farm
In 2013, Masdar partnered with the government of Seychelles to develop a 6 MW wind farm for Mahé Island. and started building a hybrid photovoltaic and natural gas concentrated solar power (CSP) plant in Al Ain called Noor 1, and a 30 MW wind farm on Sir Bani Yas island. Masdar holds 20% equity in the London Array, a large wind farm off the coast of Britain designed to generate up to 1,000 MW of power. Masdar invested in the 20 MW Gemasolar Thermosolar Plant and the twin 50 MW Valle 1 and Valle 2 solar power stations in Spain, which were developed by Torresol Energy, a joint venture between SENER and Masdar with respective equity stakes of 60% and 40%.

Abu Dhabi Sustainability Week
Masdar hosts Abu Dhabi Sustainability Week (ADSW), with a series of events focused on accelerating sustainable development. It gathers together policymakers, industry specialists, technology pioneers and sustainability leaders. ADSW is an annual global event under the patronage of Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan focused on sustainable development and the advancement of economic, social, and environmental progress. The event is considered the largest sustainability gathering in the Middle East and works to advance environmental research, technology, industry, and policy developments.

Zayed Sustainability Prize
In 2008, Masdar introduced the Zayed Future Energy Prize, renamed the Zayed Sustainability Prize, awarding $4 million annually to global leaders in renewable energy and sustainability.

WiSER
At the 2015 ADSW, Masdar held the first year of the Women in Sustainability, Environment and Renewable Energy (WiSER) Annual Forum.

Youth 4 Sustainability
Masdar's Youth 4 Sustainability (Y4S) initiative includes two educational programs for young people to advance their participation in sustainability entrepreneurship, prepare for corporate involvement, and make technological developments.

I appreciate your review of the material and sources, and the reinsertion of this content to the article. Thank you GreenDrake28 (talk) 14:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC) GreenDrake28 (talk) 14:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Add CEO to History
Please add the following information to the end of the second paragraph in the History section:
 * In early 2016, Mohamed Jameel Al Ramahi was appointed as the chief executive officer of Masdar.

Thank you. GreenDrake28 (talk) 10:11, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks! Antandrus (talk) 15:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * , thanks so much. GreenDrake28 (talk) 08:13, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Project Inclusion, Revised
, thank you for taking a look at the previous request I made here. I'd be grateful for your review of this as well. , and, your previous involvement was informative and appreciated. The following reflects a revised request for inclusion of the Projects content with the strongest sourcing available.

Masdar has a presence in 40 different countries and has invested over US$30 billion in solar and wind projects. In November 2022, it signed a preliminary agreement to develop renewable energy projects in Jordan. ✅ STEM info  (talk) 21:13, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Masdar Renewables is involved in renewable energy projects and Green hydrogen. Masdar's goal is to produce up to 1 million tonnes of green hydrogen per annum by 2030. One of the projects is the Shams Initiative. The company has also invested in waste-to-energy/landfill plants. ✅ STEM info  (talk) 21:13, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Additional areas of activities include:

In 2013, Masdar partnered with the government of Seychelles to develop a 6 MW wind farm for Mahé Island. That same year they started building a hybrid photovoltaic and natural gas concentrated solar power (CSP) plant in Al Ain called Noor 1, and a 30 MW wind farm on Sir Bani Yas island. Masdar holds 20% equity in the London Array, a large wind farm off the coast of Britain designed to generate up to 1,000 MW of power. Masdar invested in the 20 MW Gemasolar Thermosolar Plant and the twin 50 MW Valle 1 and Valle 2 solar power stations in Spain, which were developed by Torresol Energy, a joint venture between SENER and Masdar with respective equity stakes of 60% and 40%.

Masdar hosts Abu Dhabi Sustainability Week (ADSW), an annual global event under the patronage of Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan focused on sustainable development and the advancement of economic, social, and environmental progress. At the 2015 ADSW, Masdar held the first year of the Women in Sustainability, Environment and Renewable Energy (WiSER) Annual Forum.

In 2008, Masdar introduced the Zayed Future Energy Prize, renamed the Zayed Sustainability Prize, awarding $4 million annually to global leaders in renewable energy and sustainability.

Masdar's Youth 4 Sustainability (Y4S) initiative includes two educational programs for young people to advance their participation in sustainability entrepreneurship, prepare for corporate involvement, and make technological developments. GreenDrake28 (talk) 08:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi GreenDrake28 - this looks pretty good overall - I just have a couple of questions right at the top. Instead of "has a presence" in 40 different countries, can we use more precise language? Does Masdar have offices in 40 countries, or projects in 40 countries, or is working with 40 countries on projects? Having worked for giant corporations much of my own career I recognize "marketing speak" and always try to find more precise language for the encyclopedia than we'd use in press releases. Can we say Masdar has projects in 40 countries? And one other thing - is the "Shams Initiative" the same thing as the Shams Solar Power Station, i.e. is that the actual project, or is the project something bigger with Dubai of which the SSPS is only a part? (I know sometimes these projects are bigger than the physical facility - they might involve trading credits, moving energy around, and all kinds of non-obvious things). I'll put this section in relatively soon unless anyone objects. Thanks - Antandrus (talk) 22:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response and attention. To clarify, Masdar has over 40 projects in almost 40 countries, with some locations having more than one project. Most of the media coverage reporting this information uses Masdar's website; sometimes the reporting details aren't entirely clear. Concerning the Shams Initiative, Masdar runs this project and is also the largest shareholder in the Shams Solar Power Station. Does that explain it better? I appreciate the opportunity to work with you in adding this information to the article. GreenDrake28 (talk) 09:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok - I have incorporated them as is (so far) - anyone feel free to revise. I couldn't find a more precise estimate on number of countries and precise meaning of "presence" on a quick Google, so left the original wording. "Active in 40 countries" works but it matches the wording on the reference; personally I avoid such close paraphrase if at all possible but there's only so many ways to say it. The section on wind farms could maybe be organized better, i.e. since the Dogger Bank project gets its own section but the others do not. Everything appears to me to be factual and neutral. Antandrus (talk) 18:10, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * IMO most of this does not belong in the article. The sourcing is mostly state-owned news outlets in a country without press freedom promoting and praising a state-owned entity. This is not independent reliable sourcing. Thenightaway (talk) 18:13, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, I took it out again. Just trying to help out GreenDrake28 with an edit request. GreenDrake et al. - maybe decide which sources are sufficiently independent, and then write something from that? It can also be helpful to start small, e.g. just a short paragraph about "Projects" without too much detail, and then proceed from there. Antandrus (talk) 23:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks again . I trust the community to review the material and gauge what might be included in the article. Perhaps some of the content instated in December 2023 would be appropriate? Grateful for everyone's time and effort here. GreenDrake28 (talk) 08:38, 6 March 2024 (UTC)