Talk:Michelle Belanger

Proposed Deletion Discussion
Does this article even quality for WP:Prod? Reading over the criteria I found:
 * Articles that:
 * Have previously been proposed for deletion using the process.
 * Have previously been undeleted
 * Have been discussed at AfD
 * are not candidates for .

The most recent | Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michelle Belanger (2nd nomination), which was closed less than a week ago, resulted the article being kept because no consensus was reached. Additionally, the article was recently undeleted. Therefore the, based on my understanding of what I am reading with the WP:Prod requirements, this article does not qualify for the tag on two counts.

Additionally, the user who placed the only notified the article's original, creator, and not the editors more recently and heavily involved with the article.

To this editor, this feels like a disingenuous attempt at skirting another AfD discussion.

I am therefore removing the tag and adding  to the top of this page as per Contesting a proposed deletion:Before deletion.--SiIIyLiIIyPiIIy (talk) 23:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

It looks a lot better than even a week ago. I think the placement of the prod tag by LeCrois is pretty lame. Despite the unconfirmed sock check, it seems that LeCrois really has a bee in her bonnet about this person. If someone makes too many prods, especially when an article is being improved, it could be seen as disruptive behavior. Ebonyskye (talk) 08:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * In case you don't know how to read proper English, I already answered you and referred how the prodding, despite being misplaced, was the idea and advice of the administrator that closed the AfD, and this was confirmed by him in the already provided link that you so try to blindly not see (evidence available in my talk page).
 * As far as the individual from this article, I have nothing personal against her. In fact, I never heard about her before, simply because she just isn't known outside this promotional Wikipedia article. What I do have against is the usage of Wikipedia project as a platform for free publicity as in this article, especially when it relates to non-notable individuals that have no voice in whatever field and not one single peer-reviewed work, but just a bunch of non-sense texts claiming she is a vampire back from Egypt, which would honestly scare the hell out of any historian. An obvious and blatant hoax.
 * Now, please stop wasting your own time attacking other editors and bringing up useless SPI's that only prove you wrong, just because those editors disagree with your marketing campaign, especially when you are the one that has been under the light of CheckUser scrutiny and checked out as a sock puppet. Learn to be more open minded and not so easily moved, so instead of that you can try to actually spend your time wisely and doing something productive. Think about it.  Diana LeCrois    : 02:36, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Article Cleanup
I just cleaned up 2 sections, Lit and Music. Some of the stuff was redundant, but that's because the album was inserted into this page. Ebonyskye (talk) 09:15, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion to make a list of books. It might look neater than sentence format, and could include a brief synopsis. Can also link to ISBN per the Wiki Book format. I'm just a tiny bit familiar with this and have to research the correct format or template.

I was also wondering since the Blood of Angels album was moved here if we could reinstate the album template so it will continue the Nox Arcana discography. And can we also insert some of the URN releases in a way that won't disrupt their album pages? Ebonyskye (talk) 21:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I would not see a problem including the album template in the BoA section. It's been a week since your initial suggestion, and there's been no nay sayers from the people watching the article.  I would say this is a case where being bold is certainly appropriate.--SiIIyLiIIyPiIIy (talk) 13:40, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Regarding article presentation. I'm probably not the first to try and fix the odd lack of a space where it says "Blood of Angelsis the 6th album", I thought adding another space would suffice, but it still shows no space on the actual page. It's a minor bug, but maybe someone knows how to fix it.Feyre (talk) 20:42, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

a MTF transgender?
I don't know if it's true but I've heard a room that Michelle is a Male to Female Transgender, any clarification on that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.29.32.136 (talk) 06:32, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: In her interview with PolyWeely, she claims to have been born intersexed. --208.125.152.228 (talk) 05:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I believe in her live journal, Belanger has made claims to being a third generation DES child. I'm sort of torn over including this fact in the general article.  On the one hand, Belanger's live journal is obviously self-published material.  On the other, I feel when it comes to the status of one's genitals and gender, self-published sources should be considered.--SiIIyLiIIyPiIIy (talk) 13:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * In the mentioned interview with PolyWeekly, she goes into detail about her condition. While it doesn't mention being a third gen DES child, she does frankly discuss being intersexed at birth.  In cases like these, I agree self-published sources should be considered as well.
 * --208.125.152.228 (talk) 06:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Would you happen to know the publication date to locate the article?--SiIIyLiIIyPiIIy (talk) 12:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a podcast actually, but the date attached to it is "Fri, 26 Aug 2005" (interview is linked in Michelle Belanger's Wiki article). --208.125.152.228 (talk) 04:38, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Picture??
Can someone get a picture up?--208.125.152.228 (talk) 02:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Merging album page
I merged the Blood of Angels album page with this author's page. This was done under demand from other admins (either this or deletion), so please don't complain. I used the album template so as to avoid breaking the links between the other 9 albums in the Nox Arcana discography. I only removed one redundant statement (at the end regarding, URN and saying the Belanger is an author) due to it already being established in the upper portion of this article. I also copied over the other refs and ext links that were on the album page, as they all serve as reference and establish notability. Ebonyskye (talk) 05:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I noticed today that there's been a bit more activity here. But please don't remove the album template for this article. The album page was merged here by request of admins in earlier discussions on this subject. It is #6 in a discography of 11 albums by Nox Arcana. To remove the album template disrupts the flow of the rest of the discography. Sorry, but it was the only option when someone removed the album page. Thanks. Ebonyskye (talk) 02:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Vanity page
At present, this article is nothing than a vanity page. Laval (talk) 09:29, 1 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Ten years later and it still is. Ashmoo (talk) 11:55, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

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