Talk:Michelle Dickinson

Query
Is this page still a draft? How does it get moved into publication? and Thanks! MurielMary (talk) 20:59, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I've removed the list of bare URLs and shall now move it into article space.  Schwede 66  22:22, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Removal of birthdate by anonymous user
An IP user has removed the two mentions of Dickinson's birthdate. Is this because the date is inaccurate? No reason was given so I have reinstated the dates. If there is an inaccuracy please provide a reliable source with a correct date. Thanks. MurielMary (talk) 23:32, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You have now removed biographical details at least twice, and in an edit summary referred to this being "in line with Wikipedia guidelines". I'm unaware of such guidelines; would you thus please provide a link to them? If you can't provide such a link, I'm afraid we'll have to revert your changes.  Schwede 66  19:02, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've just looked into this in more detail. The specific WP guideline on privacy of living people is at WP:BLPPRIVACY - I think we need to establish whether Dickinson's birthdate is widely available from other reliable sources. If it is, it can be included here. If not, the year only can be included here. MurielMary (talk) 20:14, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Belated answer: her birthday is possibly not in the public domain, but her middle name certainly is (Queen's Birthday Honours lists always include the full name).  Schwede 66  18:17, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The anonymous user was the article subject, who was unhappy with unsourced personal information being added, in contravention of WP:DOB. In fact I can't even see a reliable source for the year of birth. If someone could supply one, we can put that in there, but until then I'm taking it out too. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 21:58, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Which personal information to keep
There's currently a discussion going on on Twitter about which public information this article should display. I've encouraged people to make a case for any removal of information using the WP:BLP guidelines. I hope that we can have a discussion here, rather than just delete things we disagree with. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 22:12, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * For example, I've fixed one link, whereas a previous editor had just deleted it. The following is still broken, and hasn't been archived in Archive.org:
 * "Twelve Questions: Dr Michelle Dickinson aka 'Nanogirl'". The New Zealand Herald. 17 March 2015. ISSN 1170-0777. Retrieved 7 December 2015.
 * So I've removed the biographical information taken from that reference, at least until we can find a better one. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 22:52, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * That NZ Herald link works for me! Nurg (talk) 02:19, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Indeed, that one has gone live again.  Schwede 66  03:03, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The new Herald website is crap, as all their historic links going back to 2000 is gone. That doesn't mean that the source does not exist any longer; it just means it's no longer online. Anybody can still walk into a library and read up on the print edition., it is thus inappropriate to remove information that this article references. Remember that for a source to be reliable, it does not have to be online.  Schwede 66  18:55, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I know, but I feel in this particular case we have to be pretty scrupulous. I'd like for all the biographical information to be easily available to anyone, preferably drawn from profiles on official websites that the subject has obviously consented to. There has been enough criticism of the inappropriate inclusion of private information in this article that I'd like everything in it to be obviously public information given out with the subject's consent. So if we can find a better source for the same information than a newspaper article that only exists in print form, that would be ideal; if we can't we can't. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 07:04, 14 July 2017 (UTC)