Talk:Michigan Stars FC

Fouding of the Club

I added at template to the first sentence of history. Not only should this be cited under general Wikipedia guidelines, but I don't think its accurate. I don't completely understand the relationship between Windsor Spartans FC and the current incarnation of the Michigan Stars, but my understanding is that the "Established 1982" that the club espouses, is actually based on the year of founding of the Dearborn Stars.

I found a non-NPSL/non-Stars source quoted as the club (in this case FC Windsor Spartans) being 15-years-old in 2013, added citation, and fixed foundation dates. Pirmas697 (talk) 14:02, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Earliest reference I could find is when they were planning on joining the USL Super-20 League in 2008, from November 2007. https://web.archive.org/web/20071114162058/http://www.windsorspartansfc.com/ BigIdiot66 (talk) 06:11, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Found another old related site with a last updated date of 1999. https://www.itsportsnet.com/league.php?leagueID=16933 https://www.itsportsnet.com/league.php?scriptName=LEAGUEINFO&leagueID=16933&leagueInfoID=15715&cache=no BigIdiot66 (talk) 07:27, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Contested deletion

In the inevitable contested deletion this article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because the team plays in the National Premier Soccer League. The League and all of it's teams are well documented on Wikipedia (See FC Buffalo). The league and it's teams are relevant due to the growing popularity of Soccer in the United States in general and the NPSL specifically.Eric Ando (talk) 19:11, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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2019 Standings

@Jamal Harris: - So, the 2019 standings. Stars placed in 6th despite using any sane system they'd've been 5th. The rules for ranking were given as such (these were consistent from season to playoffs):

1. Points
2. Head-to-head results
3. Head-to-head goal difference
4. Most competition wins
5. Competition goal difference
6. Fewest losses
7. Coin toss

If three or more teams were tied, there were more rules, but that doesn't apply. So walking through the rules:

1. Points (both had 14; so next rule)
2. Head-to-head results (2 draws, so tied; next rule)
3. Head-to-head goal difference (since it was 2 draws, the h2h goal difference was 0-0; keep applying rules)
4. Most competition wins (FC Columbus had 4 wins to Michigan Stars 3. So FC Columbus wins the coveted 5th place)

I agree this is a stupid system. It's non-standard as rule 5 is usually rule 2 in the vast majority of leagues (if not all of them), but those were the rules at the time. As for why the standings are mixed up now on the NPSL site. As far as I am aware they either migrated hosts or upgraded the league software since the 2019 season, which applied the standard tiebreaker rules to the standings, and thus, they are incorrect. It is unfortunate, but the NPSL is not a league known for its due diligence, especially in the realm of software. Pirmas697 (talk) 17:29, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

I'd rather go with the listed tiebreakers that each team had to follow than an inconsistent league website. The NPSL does not list a reason WHY it isn't following tie-breakers here. ColeTrain4EVER (talk) 02:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I managed to speak with on of their people (if for no reason than to soothe my own concerns) and they confirmed my suspicion it has to do with new database software. Pirmas697 (talk) 01:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

References

Thank you very much for that feedback Jamal Harris (talk) 19:01, 1 February 2021 (UTC)