Talk:Microsoft SharePoint Workspace

how groove will work
For the lame windows office user, can someone please explain how groove will work for me. For instance, do I need to purchase an account? Is there free server space somewhere that I can use. Are there file size limitations? etc. The microsoft descriptions are far to vague and theoretical. The product sounds like it will revolutionize people's relationships, but seriously, exactly what do I need to know?


 * Watch th demo video on the Official Microsoft Groove page.

Criticisms of Groove 2007
The "Criticisms of Groove 2007" section is NOT NPOV and needs cleaning up with sources citing.There is a complaint further down which also states this.

And also, the Subversion reference is valid, Subversion clearly is an alternate collaboration product (or actually, many). --VirianFlux 21:25, 22 March 2007 (GMT) (not signed in)

'Grooviquette'?
This product has barely been released... I can't imagine many people are already using a colloquial term like 'grooviquette' when talking about it. I propose removing this section. CarrerCrytharis 01:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * "Barely been released"? As a Microsoft Office component, certainly, but it was a standalone product for a long time before the Microsoft buyout. Simxp 15:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the reference to Subversion be removed. Subversion has nothing to do with this product, it is only a RCS not a collaboration product.

Criticisms
OK, I'm too new to Wikipedia to take a bold action like this, but it seems the "criticisms" section is purely editorial (non-neutral and non-verifiable). Is this the kind of thing one should feel free to edit out? --24.34.151.67 16:41, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I removed the entire section. It was totally unreferenced, and written in an unencyclopediac, editorial, PoV tone. It can be readded with enough referenced and proper criticisms. Or criticisms be inlined. --  soum  (0_o) 07:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Likewise, the "Vendor Lock-in" section is just as non-NPOV. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but just saying it doesn't make it so.  If it's really an issue there should be some supporting evidence.  I'm removing that section.  196.40.38.33 (talk) 19:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been using Groove for a few years now, and the vendor lock-in is really a problem, causing Groove to become a dead-end for all data we've put in there, unless we wrote our own application to talk to Groove's API (which is a neck-breaker for non software developing companies and private users). Maybe this is better in newer versions, but as far as I know Microsoft's policy of interoperability with others, I highly doubt that. Groove has it's advantages, but people should know what to expect when they start using it. Anyone got any suggestions how to get that back into the article, properly written as NPOV? ...because this is what makes Wikipedia so great: You get an honest (user)view of things - not the saleman's. The rooker (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 10:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

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Better Screenshot
This article would really benefit from a screen shot with some data in, it would help clarify would the app does. The one at the moment is better than nothing, but not that useful really. Quietbritishjim (talk) 08:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Tools : please explain
Someone who knows the software should re-write this section, which I personally found incomprehensible.

"Tools that members use in a workspace often drive the nature of the person-to-person collaboration that ensues. In Groove 2007, the SharePoint Files tools can be used to take Sharepoint 2007 document libraries offline."

In the first sentence, does this mean that the nature of the collaboration is influenced by the tools that they happen to make available in a given workspace? Is this in fact talking about the unique power of the workspace configurator to influence the extent of the collaboration?

Secondly, by "taking offline" do we mean "make unavailable" or "make available even when not online"?

Matt Whyndham (talk) 10:21, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

SkyDrive Pro
Per Start screen, stating that SharePoint Workspace was discontinued and replaced by SkyDrive Pro is an assertion that shows bias towards Microsoft's marketing per WP:NPOV. The article should be updated to reflect the fact that it was merely re-branded and updated a bit instead. ViperSnake151  Talk  19:30, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello. Everything correct, except the fact that it is not a re-branding. SkyDrive Pro is indeed different. What made you think it is a rebranding in the first place? Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 08:00, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * This and this; SkyDrive Pro is an extension of the SharePoint syncing functions that SharePoint Workspace was used with. Also, notice that its executable (in the first link) mentions Groove, meaning that its essentially the same program. ViperSnake151   Talk  18:53, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi.


 * Actually, I did notice that there are some sentences in those sources that if taken out of context, can give the same impression that you intend. For example, "The SkyDrive Pro client application behaves like the old SharePoint Workspace client application". Anyone who reads this sentence alone definitely thinks it must be a rebranding. The mention of GROOVEEX.DLL is sure to reinforce this belief.


 * But if one reads the two articles from top to bottom, he or she'd realize that while SharePoint Workspace was a collaboration software based on SharePoint Server, SkyDrive Pro is a cloud storage service (not software). Michael Kophs defines SkyDrive Pro as "...a cloud storage solution like SkyDrive [...] for the business" and says "SkyDrive Pro runs on the newest SharePoint Online (currently in Preview) and SharePoint 2013 on-premises". Even if you haven't tested SkyDrive Pro first hand these articles tell you that although the end result of SkyDrive Pro and SharePoint Workspace may sometimes be the same things, they are essentially different thing, miles away from a rebrand. If I were to use simile, I'd compare them with personal cars and trains: Both can transport a man, but they are entirely different things.


 * Still, if you are not satisfied, you can always call in a WP:3O or a WP:RfC.


 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 01:32, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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