Talk:Millbrae station

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Would a picture be useful/helpful? I have a picture of the transfer area for heading into SF, taken from the Caltrain southbound platform looking at the cross-platform transfer section in the BART/Caltrain northbound island platform.

http://www.stanford.edu/~jvittes/photos/DSCF0350.JPG

- Jorge
 * Can you upload the picture to Wikipedia, or better yet, Wikimedia Commons? --Will74205 06:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Done -- JVittes 05:55, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * See http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Caltrain --JVittes 15:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Caltrain Service Start
From what I can gather train service has existed at this station since 1864, first from the San Francisco and San Jose Rail Road, then the Southern Pacific Peninsula Commute, then Caltrans contracted with SP in 1980, then in 1985 changed the name to Caltrain, and in 1992 it was given to the Peninsula Corridor Joint Powers Board. So the question is what should be listed as the starting service time? --JVittes 10:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Passenger numbers
What do the passenger numbers in the infobox indicate? Average daily use? Surely there were more than 3,300 BART passengers over an entire year. --Jfruh (talk) 22:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Millbrae Station for Short-Term Parking
How can I add information in this page about parking at this station being more economical than parking for longer than 36 minutes inside SFO itself, without sounding like an advertisement ? Parking inside SFO is $1 every 12 minutes. Riding BART from Millbrae to SFO is $3 round-trip, and parking is free for a single 24-hour time period. It seems like BART has not been informing the general public enough about this kind of information. I guess BART does not want to advertise its own short-term parking and create competition with SFO's own short-term parking facilities.

If more and more of the general public discovers this fact, I think BART may consider restoring direct Millbrae-SFO service next year. The more people that know, the more people will use it, and the more likely that people will demand that direct service between Millbrae and SFO be restored.

And again, I do not want to be accused of making it sound like an advertisement in the article.

Any advice, people?

Native94080 (talk) 08:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)Native94080
 * Please read WP:NPOV. You're trying to push an agenda, which is clearly in violation of that policy.  On a sidenote, I don't think it is economical, as far as time and convenience.  You have to wait for a train at Millbrae, and then wait for a train at SFO on the way back.  You're also forgetting about the fare of whoever you are taking to/from the airport.  It's also a hassle to take your bags on BART, and getting to/from the station from domestic terminals is a haul.  Either you walk, or you have to take a convoluted route up, down, and up again using Airtrain.  V-train (talk) 09:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Anyone else also want to add a sidenote ? Native94080 (talk) 09:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)Native94080


 * There is absolutely no need to be the Traveler's Guide Of Cheap Transport Away From SFOTM nor do we need to be the Campaign for Reversal of Stupid Changes Made by BART. Loosely translated, the information is not needed nor is its inclusion desirable. — Kurykh  09:45, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * That's all the more reason why I'd better look at the Wikitravel site. I might find the places to add the information that I want to publish. BRB !Native94080 (talk) 10:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)Native94080


 * If someone can dig up reliable sources on the subject (which I'm pretty sure exist), it would be useful to have some general note that BART explicitly intended the station to be a major drive-to-the-train point, both for service into the city (since it's a terminus) and to the airport (since it's the nearest station). IIRC, that's both the reason they built an extra-large parking garage there, and part of the rationale they used to sell the construction of the station to voters. --Delirium (talk) 08:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The South San Francisco Public Library (West Orange branch) has very good resources related to this subject. Although it's been a few years since I went to the library to research this subject, the West Orange library has a back wall section that's related to local public works projects such as BART.  It may have relocated to a different area of the library, but it would be best to try and find this information at the public library. Native94080 (talk) 10:11, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Native94080

largest intermodal terminal...?
The article intro starts saying Millbrae is the "largest intermodal terminal in the United States west of the Mississippi in terms of station facilities and acreage". Well, acreage is pretty much just a trivia item when talking about rail stations. I agree with the editor who just tagged that as needing a citation. (I hadn't paid attention to this article in a long time - but it got on my watchlist after I cleaned up a category recently.) Actually, I'm fairly certain the statement needs to be removed and rewritten. Claiming the "largest intermodal terminal" would have to be measured by number of tracks, since the definition of intermodal is that there's more than one type/mode. The fancy concrete structures and large parking lot (typical of any BART end-of-the-line station) don't mean Millbrae has more significant facilities than intermodal stations with more tracks/platforms. I found five which exceed Millbrae's number of tracks/platforms... Union Station (Los Angeles) [16 tracks: 2 MTA LRT + 12 MetroLink/Amtrak + 2 Red Line subway], San Francisco 4th and King Street Station (14 tracks: 12 Caltrain + 2 Muni LRT), San Jose Diridon Station [7 tracks: 2 VTA LRT + 5 Caltrain/ACE/Amtrak], Union Station (San Diego) [6 tracks: 4 Coaster/Amtrak + 2 SD Trolley LRT], Union Station (Dallas) [6 tracks: 4 TRE/Amtrak + 2 DART LRT]. (Some of those are from sat imagery.) I also looked at Seattle, Portland, Salt Lake and Denver. There are other cities west of the Mississippi too. But more analysis really isn't necessary - I'm fairly sure the title this page claims (even the way the writer originally meant it) really goes to Los Angeles. Ikluft (talk) 21:56, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * A decade later, I agree with your conclusions - BART's claims are not independently verifiable, and are almost certainly wrong. I've removed the statement in my recent rewrite. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:38, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

National Register of Historic Places
The application linked only is stamped as accepted - not approved, and it doesn't appear in the article List of National Historic Landmarks in California. Mjdestroyerofworlds (talk) 03:07, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * i think this got mixed up at some point in the edit history, but this DOES appear on the article National Register of Historic Places listings in San Mateo County, California, and as it's referenced properly on the article, i'll remove the dubious script. -MJ (talk) 19:18, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

SFO–Millbrae line
The SFO–Millbrae (purple?) line no longer runs, instead the Red and Yellow line connect to SFO. The first paragraph should be updated. I don't have time to do this right now, but can get to it later unless someone else does first.
 * ✅ Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:16, 28 August 2021 (UTC)