Talk:Mosler Safe Company

Pundit: a learned, scholarly person or an expert who offers opinions to the mass media http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pundit_(expert). Neither definition fits Jon Stewart, who is a comic with his own TV show, or Wolf Blitzer, who is (nominally) just a reporter. Suggest changing that line from "Such allegations fueled speculation as to the contents of the safe among pundits such as The Daily Show's Jon Stewart and CNN's Wolf Blitzer" to be more factual, such as "Such allegations fueled speculation as to the contents of the safe among comics such as The Daily Show's Jon Stewart and reporters like CNN's Wolf Blitzer." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrishavel (talk • contribs) 06:37, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ Aaron Liu (talk) 12:17, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Facts Discrepancies
I couldn't help but notice that there is some major confusion in online sources over a number of facts about this company. I don't know if this is something someone here can verify, but if they can, I think it'd be necessary. Otherwise, I'm not sure how factual this article actually is. To better explain what I mean, here are some examples.

To start, I can tell via a number of sources that the Mosler Safe Company did have a previous name. However, sources seem to disagree on what it was. Some like this news article the page references suggests the name is Mosler-Bahmann Safe Company. But others like this Smithsonian Institution article suggest it was Mosler, Bahmann and Company. Now, I don't know if maybe there were multiple name changes throughout the company's immediate founding, but there doesn't seem to be a consensus on this.

The same goes for the founding of the company. Admittedly, I have seen at least a few more instances of just Gustave Mosler being the founder, but the Ohio Memory Collection indicates that Gustave Mosler and Fred Bahmann were both founders. This organization does also seem to spell their names potentially incorrectly, though, so I'm not sure if it's all that accurate or if maybe Gustave and Fred's names were often mispelled.

Until we can find a more definitive source for things, I'd argue this page should have the unreliable sources template.

--MaggieAtKryton (talk) 21:15, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The article clarifies that Mosler & Bahmann first founded the Mosler, Bahmann & Company before Mosler left to make the Mosler Safe & Lock company which renamed to Mosler Safe Company. However "Mosler-Bahmann Safe Company" does need to be investigated. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:26, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Help me add one of these images to the "Products" section!
I currently don't have an open proxy IP block exception on commons, so I can't upload through there. Please add one of these images to the Products section:

Candidate one(preferred): The first gif on this national archive blog page

Candidate two: This static image of Nixon, Mr. Mosler and a senator viewing the safe scale model.

Thanks in advance! Aaron Liu (talk) 05:28, 4 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Also, there's a logo you can find on the archived website! Please add that too! Aaron Liu (talk) 05:56, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Done Aaron Liu (talk) 14:26, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

My safe says THE MOSLER SAFE CO CHICAGO IL
My big double door MOSLER says CHICAGO IL & nowhere in the details does it say anything about having done business in Chicago IL 2603:6000:BE00:ED7:50BF:79BB:3186:83BE (talk) 22:53, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That means it was made by the Chicago division of Mosler. This was a national company. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:24, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Website for this article should be removed!
The Mosler Safe Company website listed in this article is just a Godaddy website to collect cookies and has no content! 24.112.174.186 (talk) 16:42, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Click on the link, it’s supposed to be archived. Thanks for pointing out the “new” site though. Since it’s a trademark https://www.godaddy.com/legal/agreements/trademark-copyright-infringement should work. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:23, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Dates?
The article on Ft Knox (Mint) states that the vault doors used "the latest torch-and-drill-resistant material of the time." This here article states the vaults were made by Mosler, but not when. This is a pretty sloppy lapse for something explaining history. The gold vaults were completed in 1936, but that does not mean the doors weren't built years before that. Dates! 98.17.181.251 (talk) 21:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I don't have access to the book. I've asked WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request to find it. Aaron Liu  (talk) 00:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Feynman
It's been years since I read his own comments about his supposed "safe-cracking". For the most part - and possibly for every instance of safe-cracking? (I'm unsure), he stole the combinations. His narrative is amusing, and his antics drove the security people crazy. I mention this because if some secretary writes down the combination on a scrap of paper and "hides" it in the desk drawer, it doesn't seem to me that opening the safe using the combination qualifies as "safe cracking". I believe the mention of it should be removed from this article. It IS true that he established the *reputation* of being able to crack safes, but he did admit the truth later on.98.17.181.251 (talk) 22:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't see any mention of Feynman within this article. Aaron Liu  (talk) 00:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)