Talk:Mundane

older than Babylon 5
I thought "mundane" was used by members of the society of creative anachronism to refer to non-members. I believe its usage is much older than Babylon 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.98.142.122 (talk • contribs) 22:58, 27 May 2005

deletion
If this post has been marked as possible deletion because of the "Wikipedia is no dictionary"-rule, then I strongly disagree. In Babylon 5, the term is used to do describe the regular humans, not different from when you make articles about different races in sci-fi tv-series. Agreed, the article may be a stub, but I don't think it is suitable for deletion.--Emilsj 13:47, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Vote for Deletion
This article survived a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 01:34, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Other instances of it being used
I remember playing Ultima 7 part 2: The Serpent Isle, and those who lived in a city of mages, refered to those without magic as mundanes. Just in case anyone wanted to add some trivia somewhere. I'm sure if you googled around enough, you'd find a lot of science fiction and fantasy stories use that term. Dream Focus 17:11, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Open-source movement use of the term
I googled, and discovered (as if I didn't know this already) that the use of the term in open-source circles seems to owe an enormous amount to the presence of SF fans among open-source folks. (No surprise to this fan.) The use of term, given the subject matter, tends to be heavily weighted towards blogs and bulletin boards, etc. reliable sources are going to be trickier to find. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  21:31, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

No evidence Goths use the term
The reference regarding Goths apparently using the term Mundane pointed to the Wikipedia article an obscure Goth musician called Voltaire... pulling yourself up by your own boot strings? Such a reference is not really a reference becuase there is no evidence goths use the term Mundane other than MAYBE a few handfuls of people using the term on blogs and message boards. The term Mundane wasn't even mentioned anywhere on the Goth Voltaire wikipedia page. I would delete the reference to Goths using the term Mundane but I am not familiar enough wikipedia rules to go making lots of changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.128.0.29 (talk) 22:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have removed it. My guess is that it was added due to the product summary of "What Is Goth?". John Vandenberg (chat) 00:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

usage note
SCAdians use the term "mundane" in precisely the same sense - deprecatingly, even contemptuously - that science fiction fen do. As is mentioned in the article, the SCA subculture largely derives from SF fandom, and as with the hacker subculture (also widely congruent with fandom), SCA and similar groups of recreational anachronists employ fanspeak as a matter of course. Its use by the writers of Babylon 5 - who are also fen - was obviously undertaken as an inside joke. With justification, SF fen consider themselves superior to mundanes. Smarter, better educated, more open to new ideas, predominantly Promethean in temperament, libertarian, self-motivated, bibliophilic, skeptical, and holding abstract reasoning ability in high regard. In short, everything mundanes are not. Thus the fannish admonition: "Save the mundanes. We need them for breeding purposes." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.73.192.130 (talk) 10:48, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

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