Talk:Mushroomhead

Band Screenshot
Should the screenshot of the band be replaced? J Mann has returned to the band, but he does not appear in the current screenshot present in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.109.210.92 (talk) 18:46, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Genre
I am changing the genre classification from agressive rock to agressive rock/nu-metal as they have at times claimed to be nu-metal and mix hiphop with metal which is trademark nu-metal.

I'm going to change the genre classification to have alternative metal in the top, as their newest albums—XX, XII and Savior Sorrow—are all classified as being such and therefore describes them best.

Should electronic be added to the genres? Portillo (talk) 00:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

No reason not to add nu metal to the genre list since they helped create the genre. It doesn't mean that they are purely nu metal, and no reason to remove other genres from the list. It is a list, after all, of genres that they might be considered to have played at once point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fleaman5000 (talk • contribs) 15:41, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

I have just added a small some bits onto the genre part, noting that the doom metal side of mushroomhead has come through recently and that they were more nu metal earlier on, as they were for at least mushroomhead and superbuick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by StarInvasion (talk • contribs) 12:38, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Members
I have the band members in alphabetical order. Personally, I feel this is more logical than the previous, random ordering.

sempiternal 11:34, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Someone keeps adding themselves, drum tech Little Dan, and other members that are not in Mushroomhead to the members list.

Drum Tech Little Dan should be added to the list of members. He does play the water drums for them.

VinTheMetalhed 20:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)VinTheMetalhed Little Dan does not count, He is not listed ANYWHERE on their official site or myspace.

Little Dan does not count, He is not listed ANYWHERE on their official site or myspace.

6/16/07 Why is "Joe Kilcoyne" listed as "Mr Mooooooo"? He's always been credited as "Mr Murdernickel" on the self titled debut and on the Universal Records release of XX.

Lil' Dan, as he is now an official member of the band, should be added to the timeline, perhaps under "custom percussion"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.101.124.110 (talk) 06:05, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

12/10/10 I think Lil' Dan should be listed as "secondary percussion for live shows" or something to that effect. He's often playing almost half of the set on some nights. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.37.10.97 (talk) 02:25, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

J Vocals is not a former member, nobody has heard of him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.101.124.110 (talk) 23:35, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Can anyone see where J-Mann has actually returned? I see no source online or on their webpage. Guest vocals =/= a return to the band. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.114.68.162 (talk) 05:12, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Unique circumstances regarding Waylon's departure from the band. "Waylon Reavis has left Mushroomhead over "irreconcilable differences."

The vocalist released a statement to his Facebook fan page where he says his 11-year stint with the band has come to an end, along with his relationship with label Filthy Hands Company. It follows a video in which he said, "I'm not in Mushroomhead, it's fucking true. I'm out. I told you change was coming."

The latest statement reads: "Due to irreconcilable differences with band ownership, effective today vocalist Waylon Reavis has severed all ties with Mushroomhead and Filthy Hands Company.

"Waylon is thankful for the opportunity Mushroomhead has provided him the last 11 years and will now be concentrating his time and efforts on another project. Thank you to the fans for all your continued loyalty and support throughout the years."

Mushroomhead are yet to comment on Reavis' departure and this week added more dates to their current North American tour."

On the members timeline, Pig Benis is down as being keyboards and samples which is purple, instead of bass which is blue. Could someone change this please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.28.124.55 (talk) 18:05, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Biography
Just for the record, I wrote the biography. I spent a lot of time on it and it met the approval of Thirteam, the band's online street team. As such, I kindly ask that it stays as close to the original as possible.

Thank you.

sempiternal 03:07, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Not bad but... a bit too longwinding. Feels a bit too self-promotional. (imho) // Gargaj 17:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * EXTREMELY self promotional. I'm changing it for bias reasons.

Guys, they're from Streetsboro, Ohio. Not Cleveland. They even said in an interview I saw a few years back. Sorry I can't find it though. Also, sorry I attempted editing this page without permission...I'd just like this to be cleared up. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.56.1.44 (talk) 01:39, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Songs

 * Changed the song title "Marijuana User" to "Slow Thing" because thats the proper title.

Costumes
I reckon someone should write a bit more on the their costumes. Because, that may be the most unique thing about Mushroomhead. Either that or their music. But yeah, they've had a lot of different costumes. They have main ones, like the Old School stuff, the 'XX' ones, there was a few after XX and XIII and now the Savior Sorrow ones (well I'm assuming they're for Savior Sorrow) which can be found on their website.

Maybe people don't judge costumes to be as relevent as I do, I don't know.

Oh and there was also the time they dressed up as Slipknot, and then as US Presidents, and there was probably many more.

If anybody has time, they have once again changed their masks. While watching them on tour i saw that they have replaced their old masks and facepaint with new masks which depict alien-like porcelin dolls. Pictures of these new masks or obscure and not yet published on their website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.71.42.94 (talk) 05:55, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Mushroomkombat
If anyone has time they should make a page on Mushroomkombat, it deserves its own individual page.

12/10/10 Does it really need it's own page? It was just a REALLY simple flash game released for 6/6/2006. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.37.10.97 (talk) 02:17, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Picture
What happened to the Picture? It was a good one for the band. Who took it down? 216.250.13.29 01:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

We need to insert two more pictures, one of them with J-mann and the traditional X-Face masks, and a current one of them and their new masks.

Influence?
The article says: which have influenced Korn and/or Slipknot. Uhm... what the heck is that supposed to mean? Korn and Slipknot? Or Korn or Slipknot? In the latter case: does that mean it isn't at all sure if both bands are indeed influenced by Mushroomhead? Or is this just an assumption based on the fact that Mushroomhead have a similar style and started earlier? Sounds to me like we need some sources here, otherwise it looks like this is just somebody's own personal conclusion, not backed up by any hard evidence. You know, in the land of music and bands there's just too much speculation about who influenced who... it really isn't helping anyone. So untill somebody comes up with some solid sources, I'm just gonna replace that statement with something about the styles of those bands being similar, regardless of who influenced who. Greetings RagingR2 22:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Uniqueness
There are no text about how unique Mushroomhead are. Keyboards and samples play very important role in their music. So I added a few sentences about it ontop of the page -um dude thats an opinion. Nahh, it's not an opinion. They are one of the few Heavy metal bands to use keyboards that much, while still haveing a guitar.

its called cradle of filth and dimmu borgir. they have keyboards and guitar featured in their music. and yes it is an opinion. i wouldn't call mushroomhead metal either.

Slipknot, Rammstein, Marilyn Manson, KoRn etc. use keyboards; want me to continue? -Ottsworth (talk) 17:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I'll second that; there is a whole genre called melodic metal that capitalizes on keyboard use, and you can see it in other nu metal bands (linkin park, rammstein). Though their style is unique and recognizable, I think we need a source before we begin flaunting uniqueness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJbhindi (talk • contribs) 19:54, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Rammstein is not nu metal at all. Rammstein is just industrial metal, a la Marilyn Manson, Ministry, Rob Zombie. It's a diverse genre but it is not related to nu metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fleaman5000 (talk • contribs) 15:40, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Side Projects
Should ther be a seperate page for Mushroomhead side projects, or should we add them to see also.?

Edit: Bias/References/Poor Writing
The main header of the article is terribly written (the first paragraph of the main section).

I removed two lines entirely, in an effort to clean it up: "The music of Mushroomhead is very progressive and some people use to call it "art metal". The sound is very differerent to many heavy alternative metal bands because there are keyboards and samples in Mushroomhead music." The "art metal" part (which should be led into with "used to," not "use to") is of no relevance, and the point about the band being "differerent" serves no function here (nor is it true, as keyboards and sampling are prevalent throughout metal).

Also removed the comment: "(who many fans and former band members claim are a ripoff of Mushroomhead)." This should be cited to a reference, and if it IS to be used, it should be in the body of the article.

Removed the band "Tool" from the list of bands with similar sounds, as there are few (if any) similarities between the two.

Wow, the opening paragraph is probably the worst thing I have ever read. It reads like a lobotomized mongoloid wrote it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.108.16.159 (talk) 01:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

"Special Edition" of XIII...
For the record, there is nothing special about copies of XIII sold at best buy stores. There were stickers on the celophane(sp?) which stated that the track Crazy was exclusive to best buy, however this has been proven false, as this track appears on all copies of the album (except the advance version where it was replaced with "Along the Way"). The Special Edition of the album on which the tracks "Treason" & "Loop#6" appear, is simply the British copy of the album(anyone who's into music knows taht cd's released in the UK and Japan oftentimes have one or two bonus tracks, due to the fact that they are more expensive). So there was never a best buy exclusive copy with those two tracks. I have edited the main mushroomhead article, as well as the article for XIII, and corrected this information.65.43.221.230 16:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Discography
Can somebody please get the exact statistics on all of MRH's albums. I tried to make an accurate discography table but could only get consistent info on Savior Sorrow, XX, and XIII. Any info on M3, Superbuick or the self-titled, please, put it in the table ASAP.
 * Cheers --ARandomHeretic 05:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't XX be in the Remix section of the discography table. The only previously unreleased track is Empty Spaces and the rest have been remixed.

Random unreferanced slipknot hate
certain lines in text is random, and seems to be written by a fanboy on the spur of the moment? fix or not? Jackpot Den 15:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Fix, from what i see this article has no references so the more the better. M3tal H3ad 04:09, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure somewhere on www.black-goat.com it says something about this all being resolved, if I find the page I'll post a link. No guarantees it's there though... - Scott

i deleted that slipknot hate info. it was uncitied and kind of biased. it just didn't see neccessary for it to be in the article. who wrote that in there anyways, a mushroomhead fan? Dedman-88 20:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I posted the stuff about the christmas concert that I got from a link that was at the bottom of the page. Blindsnyper

there wasn't anything about a christmas concert. there wasn't anything at the bottom of the page either.Dedman-88 12:50, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

My bad I thought it was a Christmas concert, it was a Halloween concert. I guess the Nightmas Before Christmas theme was what got me, but here's the link to the article anyway. Blindsnyper

Rapcore....?
Listen ot the song "Sun Doesn't Rise" and tell me Mushroomhead isn't rapcore... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.169.42.35 (talk) 15:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah, because you ALWAYS gotta judge an entire band's sound by one song ;) Ximmerman (talk) 02:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

They do have elements of nu metal in their sound. But their definately not pop rock, like some idiot edited in a few days ago. Portillo (talk) 05:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Rivalry with Slipknot
Not that any of the article is well written, but this section was an embarrassment to Wikipedia. There aren't any sources anywhere, but everything I deleted was just nonsense and sounded like a 14 year-old who went to one show.

I wish I knew more about Mushroomhead - this article really needs to be fixed.Kingdomcarts (talk) 07:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * A revert...really? To the editor: Did you actually read that section? It's terrible!Kingdomcarts (talk) 04:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

after paul gray died, jeff called off the rivalry. (which was really just between fans) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.26.49 (talk) 21:19, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Mushroomhead Article
Well since i enter in wikipedia i created two articles and put images in them, these are my two articles Dark Funeral and Mushroomhead (in wikipedia spanish), but i saw the article mushroomhead in wikipedia english and is very short an has no images so if you want check my mushroomhead article in wikipedia spanish. (It's really large ad has a lot of images). The Fallengrademen account is mine too. Sorry for my english i'm Argentinian XD!!--Dethmyname (talk) 13:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Images
I put some images and some references in mushroomhead. I will put more references if you want.--Dethmyname (talk) 12:59, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation
I added an NPOV tag to this article today. After I added the tag, I realised the lead is mostly a copyright violation from this page. I see that material from this site has been inserted previously. I have reverted to a version from 21 January which seems to be the start of these additions, and hopefully that has removed the copyvios without removing any good content (as far as I could see, any intermittent edits were small - please undo my revert if this is not the case). Any more of this frantic copyvio/vandalism, which seems to have stemmed mostly from and it might be best to semi-protect the article for a bit. -- Kateshortforbob talk  17:24, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Slaughterhouse Road
Someone really needs to make a separate section or article for Slaughterhouse Road... -Ottsworth (talk) 18:11, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

vandalism
Undid revision 352755941 by 66.146.232.1 (vandalsim) in order to remove some offensive and childish swearing within the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.185.159.29 (talk) 16:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

12/10/10 Fixing Skinny's quote about the second show with GWAR. It keeps getting changed to omit the GWAR show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.37.10.97 (talk) 02:28, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Gravy/Pig Benis
I don't edit Wiki pages much, so I'm not sure if this would count as a citation regarding Gravy and Pig Benis no longer being in the band. Post on Gravy's Facebook page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.243.219.47 (talk) 11:54, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

St1tch Percussion
Since 2010, ST1TCH has taken on the roll of a second percussionist at concerts. With this in mind, should his bar on the timeline be given the thinner percussion bar inside his electronics bar (sorry I didn't know the terminology you guys use here)? I didn't want to just add it because while the very unscientific method of me watching a bunch of Mushroomhead concerts on Youtube seems to imply he's doing more beating than scratching during this era, on BSfUC he's just credited for his usual electronic setup, and I'd think adding a new color for "Live percussion" would just be clutter. How do you guys want to handle this? Crispy385 (talk) 23:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Mushroomhead genre
An IP user (User:108.64.172.207) is consistently reverting changes without edit reasons and is removing the nu metal genre from the infobox even though there are sources in the article itself pointing them to be a nu-metal band. The user has already broken 3RR several times, but since this sort of think usually needs some sort of discussion, I'm starting it here. We either include nu metal in the list of genres, or blank it completely. I'm adding it back for now, since it's mentioned in the article (and so I can direct him to the talk page) SonOfPlisskin (talk) 21:26, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment
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Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2016
There is a typo in the first paragraph: "...their avant-garde sound with includes influence from heavy metal,...". It should say "which includes" rather than "with includes".

Piece o Ham (talk) 00:48, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2017
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Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2018
Change Thomas Church to list as a former member. He announced on FB on 9th March 2018 he had left the band. Link to supporting evidence: https://www.facebook.com/TChurchOfficial/ 124.171.137.68 (talk) 12:34, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2022
Add Jackie LaPonza back to active members list because as far as I'm aware and have read from other sources she is still with the band as an active member 174.240.50.208 (talk) 07:19, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2023
Add new member to group Scott XStrikeX Beck as a current vocalist for Mushroomhead. 75.111.246.9 (talk) 16:26, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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