Talk:Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest

Article and Talk page cleanup

 * The Talk Page was archived.
 * The Article itself was substantially revamped and cleaned up. This article has been one that has long been a target for vandalism, unsourced statements, and just plain overall nonesense, which has made it a poor example of WP. It has come to light by the Nathan's company admitting that there really was ZERO evidence the contest existed before 1972, it was all just a myth and legend (that, of course, they had no problem perpetuating). So any and all claims to winners and results prior to 1972 have to be considered vandalism from here on out. Hopefully this recent effort will keep this article in line for a while. Doctorindy (talk) 20:27, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

1973 Contest Winner
I am the nephew of the contest winner in 1973. My uncle Michael Rabin won the contest eating 5 hot dogs in 3 minutes. My father, Michael's brother, and my aunt, Michael's sister all bear witness. They all grew up in Queens, off Springfield blvd. He was given a trophy inscribed with "1973 Hot Dog King." I have added his name into the results section for the year 1973, but it continues to get edited away. I'm new to Wiki editing and would greatly appreciate some help in adding his name.

Mrrabin (talk) 17:21, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * We need a reliable,published source. Unfortunately, your knowledge as his nephew or that of other family members is not verifiable.  We cannot include information that is not reliably sourced and verifiable, even if true.  If you can cite a published, reliable source that mentions your uncle in this context, it can be added to the article.  General Ization   Talk   17:27, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Is there any reliable record of past winners? Many of the winners for the early years of the contest do not have referenced sources listed. Should these not all be removed from the article seeing as they are not reliable, verifiable, or sourced? If there is no one contesting the truth can he be added to the list? Mrrabin (talk) 17:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I do not know of a database of past winners; one may certainly exist somewhere. I cannot account for every previous edit to this article, and the others are not the subject of our conversation.  Unsourced content cannot be added to the encyclopedia just because no one objects (and I have objected).  Please see WP:BURDEN.  General Ization   Talk   17:43, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * California Mermaid (talk) 23:13, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * https://ghkasa.com/2023-hot-dog-eating-contest-nathans-hot-dog-eating/ California Mermaid (talk) 23:24, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Here is the story... California Mermaid (talk) 23:24, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This looks to be a partial copy of this article and doesn't seem to be a proper source. If you have a better source, then please post it here.  --Super Goku V (talk) 01:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Men's and women's competition
I suggest two separate charts, rather than both results aggregated into a singe chart. It would seem to make more sense. Thoughts? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 02:10, 5 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Well ... ?   Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:22, 5 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Maybe you are right, but you'd probably actually need more than two charts then, as the competitions have evolved over the years with the times. Some contests have been all-male, some all-female, some mixed, and some of the all-male contests were actually officially "mixed" but no women entered and/or qualified for the contests.  Also, you could break it down even further than just by gender, as some competitions have included under-aged kids (one must now be at least 18), some contests were held on days other than Independence Day, some contests have required regional qualifiers, and some contests were only intended to be one-on-one match-ups with a Japanese opponent.


 * For what it's worth, the concern that you have raised was partly clarified by color-coding the list of champions by their respective belt colors. Theduder3210 (talk) 02:38, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Great. Thanks.  I did not realize that the history was so "complicated".  I had assumed it to be more straight-forward.  Also, the color distinction for men/women is helpful.   Thanks.    Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 05:32, 5 July 2019 (UTC)