Talk:National Geographic Partners

Immediate parents
We all know the National Geographic Society and 21st Century Fox are eventual parent organisations of National Geographic Partners, but which companies within the former two are the immediate parents?

Well, the documents (especially full accounts) filed to the Companies House UK by NGC UK HOLDINGS COMPANY LIMITED and NGC OVERSEAS HOLDINGS LIMITED seem to suggest something. While the documents from each company provide limited information about ownership, when the two are combined, we can find what are the immediate parents of National Geographic Partners.


 * Fox Entertainment Group, Inc. (73.2%) and NGT, Inc. (d/b/a National Geographic Television; 26.8%)
 * National Geographic Partners, LLC.
 * (some steps)
 * NGC Network Latin America LLC. (53.68%) and NGC Network International LLC. (46.32%)
 * NGC Network UK Holdco LLC.
 * NGC UK Holdings Company Limited
 * NGC Overseas Holdings Limited

JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 05:02, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Some proposed changes
Disclosure: I work for National Geographic Partners. I would like to improve the factual accuracy of this page and add more information. Nicole913 (talk) 13:29, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

In Company Infobox:
 * Add link Gary Knell
 * Update owners to The Walt Disney Company and the National Geographic Society
 * Delete Subsidiaries: NGC Studios (this incorrectly redirects to the National Geographic Society)

Background
National Geographic Partners, LLC is a joint venture of The Walt Disney Company (which owns 73% of shares) and the namesake non-profit scientific organization National Geographic Society (which owns 27%). The company oversees all commercial activities related to the Society, including magazine publications and television channels.

The joint venture was established in 2015, but the National Geographic Society's relationship with 21st Century Fox goes as far as back to late 1990s, when the original News Corporation (which 21st Century Fox is one of the successors) launched National Geographic Channel (now simply branded as National Geographic) in Asia and Europe, in partnership with the Society. The U.S. domestic version of the channel was launched in 2001.

Later Developments
Following the acquisition, National Geographic Partners channels became part of Walt Disney Television unit; with Gary Knell, Chairman of National Geographic Partners, reporting directly to the Walt Disney Television chairman, Peter Rice. Disney officially closed the deal on March 20, 2019.

Awards
National Geographic’s documentary “Free Solo” won Best Documentary Feature at the 91st Academy Awards. The film was the second-highest grossing documentary of 2018 and earned the highest per-screen average of the year. It won the BAFTA for Best Documentary and has a 99% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

In 2019, National Geographic received seven nominations for the National Magazine Awards for Print and Digital Media and won for General Excellent, News, Sports and Entertainment.

National Geographic dedicated its January 2017 issue of the magazine to gender. In 2017, National Geographic was named a Pulitzer Prize finalist for Explanatory Reporting “For a deep and sensitive exploration of gender worldwide, using remarkable photography, moving video and clear writing to illuminate a subject that is at once familiar and misunderstood.”

In 2018, National Geographic was named the first Webby Media Company of the Year. The award recognizes the most successful media company across all Webby categories.

In 2018, National Geographic and Nat Geo WILD earned a combined 18 Emmy nominations, a record for the company.

Reply 11-APR-2019

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Kindly rewrite your edit request so that it aligns more with the second example shown in the collapsed section above, and feel free to re-submit that edit request at your earliest convenience. If you have any questions about this formatting please don't hesitate to ask myself or another editor. Regards, Spintendo  22:23, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Reply 12-APR-2019
Thank you for your feedback! I have formatted the references. Nicole913 (talk) 13:29, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Edit request proposal reply 13-APR-2019
Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request. Spintendo 06:12, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Reply 13-APR-2019
Thank you for your edits to my requests, Spintendo

I would like the clarify the ownership of the company. National Geographic Partners is a joint venture between the National Geographic Society and The Walt Disney Company, not Walt Disney Television, to be consistent with the National Geographic TV page. Sources:

Clarification for: with Gary Knell, Chairman of National Geographic Partners, reporting directly to the Walt Disney Television chairman, Peter Rice. Sources:

Clarification for: In 2018, National Geographic was named the first Webby Media Company of the Year. The award recognizes the most successful media company across all Webby categories. In 2018, National Geographic and Nat Geo WILD earned a combined 18 Emmy nominations, a record for the company.

Change to: In 2018, National Geographic was named the first Webby Media Company of the Year by the International Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences. winning a total of 26 awards.

In 2018, National Geographic and Nat Geo WILD were nominated for a total of 18 Emmy Awards.

Nicole913 (talk) 19:18, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Reply 13-APR-2019

 * 1) The lead section's WikiLink to Walt Disney Television updated to Walt Disney Company.
 * 2) The article already states that the position of Chairman of National Geographic Partners reports directly to the Walt Disney Television chairman. The specifics of who occupies these positions is not the point — that one position reports to the other is. In due time, reports of those occupying those roles may become irrelevant when the individuals in those positions are replaced, whereas the roles themselves will go on.
 * 3) The individual Webby Award categories and the individual Emmy nominations and/or win categories should be delineated for clarity. It should also be clarified if the winner was designated as National Geographic Partners per se, or if any relevant subsidiaries were the direct recipients of these nominations/awards.

Regards, Spintendo  19:55, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) The Background and History sections were merged.
 * 2) Information on staff reductions, i.e., the basic claim "National Geographic and First Century Fox announced that 9 percent of National Geographic's 2,000 employees, approximately 180 people, would be laid off", was retained. Additional claims which utilized mis-referenced quoted material or relayed speculation on further numbers of positions being eliminated, was omitted per WP:DUE.

Reply 13-APR-2019
Thank you, Spintendo  for the updates and feedback.

The infobox box should be updated to The Walt Disney Company as owner to be consistent. A link can be added to Gary Knell.

The article already states that the position of Chairman of National Geographic Partners reports directly to the Walt Disney Television chairman. The specifics of who occupies these positions is not the point — that one position reports to the other is. In due time, reports of those occupying those roles may become irrelevant when the individuals in those positions are replaced, whereas the roles themselves will go on.

Feedback: The article states: the president of the National Geographic Partners reporting directly to the Walt Disney Television chairman. But the title is incorrect. Gary Knell is the chairman of National Geographic Partners.

Nicole913 (talk) 21:15, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed Additions
Disclosure: I work for National Geographic Partners. I would like to improve the factual accuracy of this page and add more information.

Under Television channels, the description of National Geographic should be updated. The channel airs all types of non-fiction programming, not just documentaries, as shown in the National Geographic (TV network) article.

TO ADD:

On January 13, 2017, National Geographic announced the launch of National Geographic Documentary Films. Under the banner, National Geographic has released feature documentaries including Free Solo, Jane, Science Fair, Paris to Pittsburgh with Bloomberg Philanthropies, LA 92 and From the Ashes. On March 4, 2019, National Geographic Documentary Films announced it will release a documentary about the Tham Luang cave rescue.

Disney+
Content from National Geographic will be available on Disney+, an upcoming subscription streaming service. National Geographic is producing two non-fiction series for the platform: The World According to Jeff Goldblum and Magic of the Animal Kingdom.

Nicole913 (talk) 15:55, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Reply 16-MAY-2019
Regards, Spintendo  16:33, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Both claims involve the announcements of future state-of-affairs or events.

19-MAY-2019
Thank you for your feedback, Spintendo. I disagree that the claims are announcements of future state-of-affairs or events. For National Geographic Documentary Films, all of the films have already been released, as shown by the citations. For Disney+, the programs have been announced and are listed on the Disney+ page.

Nicole913 (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Reply 19-MAY-2019
If the claims involve items which have  occurred, then the phrasing needs to be reworded to signify this. The phrasing currently used in your proposal is thus: Regards, Spintendo  21:35, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) "On March 4, 2019, National Geographic Documentary Films announced it will release a documentary about the Tham Luang cave rescue."
 * 2) "Content from National Geographic will be available on Disney+, an upcoming subscription streaming service. National Geographic is producing two non-fiction series for the platform: The World According to Jeff Goldblum and Magic of the Animal Kingdom."