Talk:Neapolitan ice cream

how do you pronounce it? is it 4 or 5 sylables?

''why??? I presume it's for marketing reasons, or maybe for people who like all 3 flavors?''

"On most lists, it is the third favorite ice cream flavor in the US." Huh? Really? On most lists, what are the first two favorites?

"There can be other combinations"--other combinations of Neapolitan? Isn't it always chocolate, strawberry, and vanilla?? --LMS (lover of Neapolitan, but not therefore a Latin lover)

'''All this is such a crap! This ice cream (chocolate/vanilla/strawberry flavor) is called Fürst Pückler Eis and it has been created in 1839 by a Prussian chef! I can't believe how biased this article is! get the facts and then write an article! Don't write just down your chauvinistic dreams!!!''' --89.50.28.228 (talk) 14:20, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Neapolitan doesn't have to be those three, according to http://www.allrecipes.com/encyc/terms/N/7588.asp (I assume this is true because it says so) and http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/Q4.HTM

This site says it is #5, though: http://www.makeicecream.com/15mospopicec.html ...on some other sites I found, it was #3, after vanilla (#1) and chocolate (#2): http://www.bayarea.com/entertainment/guide/summer/docs/icecream5.html

-dreamyshade


 * is it 3rd thru 5th because it occupies 3rd, 4th, and 5th? ;)

"Marge, we need some more vanilla, chocolate and strawberry ice cream!" -- Homer J. Simpson, Episode 8F11

Anybody have any idea what Neapolitan ice cream has to do with Naples? Also, do we capitalize Neapolitan or not? - montréalais


 * I always assumed it was because of the resemblance to the Italian flag: [[Image:Flag of Italy.svg|125px|]]. I suppose it ought to be mint instead of chocolate, though. ;) --Brion

From what I can find, the article contains an error. "Neopolitan" refers to Naples, Italy. There is no reason as far as I can tell to infer that it is called Neopolitan because it was " Napoleon's favorite ice cream". (Which I had always assumed.) In fact, multi-flavored ice cream ("spumoni") blocks were popular around the early 1900's. Italians and Sicilians ran many of the confectionary shops in the U.S and so the combination became known as "Neopolitan" in the U.S. Because chocolate, strawberry and vanilla were the most popular flavors in the U.S. they are the traditional combination. See http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodicecream.html for an excellent history of ice cream and an explanation of the Neopolitan connection. -Jonathan

I agree that the Neapolitan name does not come from Napoleon. While I understand how that association could be made, I have never heard of anyone mispronouncing Neapolitan as Napoleon. The article states that this is the case, and I don't think that it should. Any opinions? Also, I noticed that an edit from October of 2008 had a lot of info on the Dutch origin. Was this found to be incorrect? It seemed very informative. Hinspate (talk) 05:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC) Derek
 * In the UK, I've never heard of it being called Napoleon. And I've never seen it in American books under that name, either. We were rather closer to the Napoleons, too. However, http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Napoleonic_Wars ... Peridon (talk) 15:03, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * there's a pastry called "napoleon"; I suspect somebody may be confusing that. but, no, I've never heard it for the ice cream eiither.  i may have seen "napolitan" with the e missing, however -- there's quite a bit googling up under THAT spelling (oh, wait, even MORE googling up with "napoleon"!!  i guess it's a common mistake.)
 * as for the FLAG, it's pistachio, not mint, and it's still around. see section below -- you guys shouldn't be posting up here in unformatted areas!  209.172.25.94 (talk) 06:33, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Banana split
I thought the banana split added something to the article. Also, is there any coumtry correlation on the flavour ordering? I noticed the UK and US ones were in different orders. Maybe that would be a reason to have the country labels? I think someone needs to go out and buy several different brands to see if there is order dependency there. No, wait, that would be violating WP:NOR!!! + +Lar: t/c 02:18, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Lar, actually I went out and looked and all the brands in the US were different. Different order, different arrangement, (horizontal vs. vertical). So i got the one in a square block so I could unmold it and take a nicer picture. Its more a brand thing than a country thing.  As for the "split" the whole point of neapolitan is that it is molded together. The split didn't show that, its could be three random scoops of ice cream.  Also, it was an unappetizing picture with a random black spot in the middle. Much better suited to illustrating banana split.  Anyway, I wouldn't object to a better pic that showed the flavors combined in one scoop, but that particualr one didn't lend much. Later dude. :)   psch  e  mp  |  talk  12:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well isn't neapolitan a term for combined flavours too? I've seen banana splits badged that way. (see for example this unofficial Disney menu reference under heading "classic Neapolitan Banana Split") Also... glad (scared?) to hear you have already researched the important order/shape/sequence question in some depth. Later, dudette...  + +Lar: t/c 13:47, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

It has been done
The ice cream has been produced for quite a while- two centuries, at least. It has been done. Very good. Ice cream is a dairy product. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nsequeira119 (talk • contribs) 01:11, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

grats
This is a good article. Way to go, guys!--Sonjaaa 09:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

vs. Spumoni
This article contradicts the Spumoni article, stating that Spumoni was created in Italy before Neapolitan. &mdash; X S  G  03:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Serving method?
I'm fairly certain this "American spumoni" (kinda like what American cheese is to cheddar) was originally designed to be served like spumoni, that is, with all three flavors being eaten at once with the flavors combining in the mouth, presumably before they melt together into a pinkish beige puddle.

However, I believe the reason Neapolitan continues to be a top 5 seller in the US is due to a misunderstanding of this concept, coupled with a desire to save money: every time I've ever seen or been served Neapolitan ice cream, it was in a group setting (school cafeterias, church picnics, etc.) from a giant "valu-style" plastic tub that looked like it had a past life as a 55-gallon oil drum. There was no (intentional) mixing, it was straight scoops of low-quality strawberry, vanilla or chocolate. It also was never very good. I've never seen gourmet Neapolitan in the US, for example, any more than I've seen gourmet Velveeta.

As the above Homer Simpson quote references, I posit that Americans like Neapolitan because its a cheap way to get the most popular three flavors at once (in order to please large groups or picky children) by buying a bigger carton with all three rather than buying one carton of each. Bravo Foxtrot (talk) 19:59, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Italian Flag
what is the name of the ice cream with strawberry vanilla and PISTACHIO -- instead of chocolate -- roughly approximating the Italian flag?

some sources claim Neapolitan originally refered to THIS combo, which sounds quite likely to me. unless there is a DISTINCT term for it?

either way, i would think this is (or was) the default combo in Italy at one point. obviously, the whole idea was to mimic the flag at some point, no?

anyone know for sure? 209.172.25.159 (talk) 07:40, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

This is not Italian
I would like to point out that this cake is unheard of in Italy. I question the inclusion in the "Italian desserts" category. --Gspinoza (talk) 13:05, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

this! this is a common problem in the "Italian cuisine" articles. It's been listed as place of origin "Italy", but in fact there isn't even an Italian language article for this product. Paolorausch (talk) 23:34, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Bad grammar
"It is the first flavor of ice cream to combines (sic.) three different flavours". This is surely bad grammar, as it should surely say "to combine three different flavours". Vorbee (talk) 18:23, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Presumed origins versus actual origins
This article says that this ice cream gets its name "from the presumed origins in the cuisine of the Italian city of Naples" but it would be good if it said where this ice cream does originate. I do not know - if it did originate from Naples, this could be mentioned in the article. Vorbee (talk) 18:28, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Translate the German article - than you know where this creation comes from ;-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.60.5.146 (talk) 09:42, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

The title should be "Neapolitan Ice Cream"
Each word in a title is meant to be capitalized