Talk:Nicolas Cage/Archive 1

Ambiguous personal life
I can't seem to change it myself but the sentence:

"Weston appeared in Cage's film Lord of War as Vladimir, a young Ukrainian mechanic who quickly disarms a Mil Mi-24 helicopter and is lead singer of the black metal band Eyes of Noctum"

Makes it sound like he was in a metal band in the film, it should probably read:

Weston appeared in Cage's film Lord of War as Vladimir, a young Ukrainian mechanic who quickly disarms a Mil Mi-24 helicopter. He is also the lead singer of the black metal band Eyes of Noctum — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.157.128 (talk) 21:16, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I've resolved the ambiguity by putting the band first.  Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 07:54, 9 June 2011 (UTC) (p.s. New threads go at the bottom of the page.)

Wife
isnt that a little sexist? why does "alice kim" page redirect to nicolas cage page with not even info on her? (random user) oct 2005
 * No, she hasn't done anything notable other than marry a notable person. Therefore she has no article of her own so her name redirects here.  Dismas|(talk) 18:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Bloody lip
There is a persistent minor urban legend in some circles that Nicholas Cage sports a bloody lip in every movie he's been in. Is there any truth to this? Should it be documented? Can we modify his filmography to include a "Bloody Lip Yes/No" field? :) 24.69.16.245 23:18, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Note one previous comment: To my knowledge of remembrence, Cage did not have a bloody nose in National Treasure. Correct me, if I am wrong, but I am fairly sure of that.

Possible sabotage
Either someone sabotages the "personal interests" section, or Nicolas Cage has the funniest interests of all time. 12.208.70.207 18:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Dead?
Someone keeps putting he's dead from artery blockage. He's not. He's alive and well. ~Crowstar~ 01:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Executive producer of The Godfather III?
I thought http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Gage was the executive producer of The Godfather III and not Nicolas Cage as mentioned in the Career section. 128.221.197.21 06:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Grindhouse critically acclaimed??
How does a 76% cream of the crop at rottentomatoes.com qualify as critical acclaimation?? Iforgetwhat8wasfor (talk) 15:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Fact?

 * "Cage has been married three times, Patricia Arquette (married on April 8, 1995 – divorce finalized May 18, 2001) Cage proposed to her on the day he met her in the early 80s. Arquette thought he was strange, but played along with his antics by creating a list of things Cage would have to do to "win her hand", including obtaining the autograph of reclusive author J.D. Salinger. However, when he seriously started working through the list of demands, Arquette became scared and avoided him. They met again many years later and went on to marry."

Is this fact? It sounds more like an amusing story Arquette might have told in an interview or something just for kicks. Plus, there's no citation. TripOnMyShip (talk) 08:39, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Cage makes reference to his spirital interests
Being an expert on 16th century German mystic, Jacob Boehme, it was interesting to hear Cage make mention of him:


 * In the second week of February 2007 while appearing on the Jay Leno show promoting his new movie Ghost Rider, Cage stated that one of his “great interests…was 16th century German mysticism”, which can only be meant the writings of Jacob Boehme, a prolific author of Neoplatonic-like mysticism and speculation about the One (Godhead).

The ONLY "16th century German Mystic" was Jacob Boehme, a very very prolific author of profound metaphysics - User Attasarana

Related: He "admits" that he's a Christian? Do we need it to sound like a crime, a secret? I'm not quite sure how to change it other than "He is a Christian, having been baptized Roman Catholic," which seems to come out of nowhere, as now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.134.121.3 (talk) 03:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Just say that he's Roman Catholic. That he's Christian naturally is understood by that statement. Banaticus (talk) 17:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Surname change
Recently, Nick has said that he changed his name to Cage bcause of composer Christopher Cage. Not sure why he changed his mind as to why he changed his last name, but he did. Rayner23 15:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

First of all, the composer's first name is John, not Christopher. Also, he said that John Cage is a second inspiration in addition to the superhero Luke Cage/Power Man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.209.118.221 (talk) 17:02, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Knowing - 2009
This article lists the movie Knowing under 2008 and yet the movie's Wikipedia entry at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowing_(film) says it's a 2009 movie
 * Thanks, but as I'm seeing this article, Knowing is correctly listed as a 2009 film both in the text and in the Filmography table. Perhaps the table is not appearing correctly in your internet browser? Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 06:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Intro
The current intro starts with a sentence claiming that NC is known because of his collaborations with Jerry Bruckheimer, which is frankly bollocks. Any objection to removing it? RaseaC (talk) 21:01, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No. The lead needs to be fleshed out more and I suspect that the Bruckheimer statment is all that remains of something that actually had some direction to it but has been lost in the shuffle. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll go ahead and remove it for now, hopefully someone can do the fleshing out sometime. RaseaC (talk) 10:20, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Award
A new editor posted this to my talkpage, as I was the admin who protected the article, if someone wants to take care of adding this to the article:

Nicolas Cage, the actor, has just won a United Nations Humanitarian Award. I was going to add this but found it semi-protected by yourself.

The United Kingdoms BBC published this article on 5th December 2009. None of the details appear on the wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Cage

The BBC article is at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8396880.stm Smiler03 (talk) 19:19, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

(posted here by Alexius  Horatius  19:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC))

A sentence reads: "He has also won and been nominated many other awards." It should probably read: "He has also won and been nominated FOR many other awards.

Weston Cage's band
Weston Cage's band is named Eyes of Noctum, and not Eyes of Nocturn, as this article says. I will probably be faced with skepticism at first, but it is true. A source just needs to be found for that. I might do that sometime. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 05:59, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

'Kim'?
Silly question, but why is Nicholas Cage's real middle name 'Kim'? It sounds very unusual. What's the story behind the name? Is it like 'A Boy Named Sue'? Schuimend Mormel (talk) 18:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Nicolas Cage took his wifes name Alice Kim when they married, although this article states that he was born Nicolas Kim Coppola which is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.251.68 (talk) 19:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Birth name
The current reference doesn't say anything about NC's birth name being 'Capolla' it simply shows someone with that name was born on that date, we need a better reference ASAP or I'll go ahead and remove it again. RaseaC (talk) 09:52, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Do not remove the date or reference. It is common knowledge that Cage was born into the acting Coppola family and in fact, that is referenced twice in the Early life section. That reference is there for the birthdate, which is, in fact, a reference directly from the State of California Birth Index, for a person named Nicolas Coppola, born in Los Angeles on the same date as Nick Cage, who changed from his birthname (see citations) to Cage to avoid nepotism. There is no other "Nicolas Coppola" born in Los Angeles County on January 7, 1964. Perhaps it would help you to read the other cites in the article that actually cover that. Wildhartlivie (talk) 10:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Firstly it's not common knowledge, and even if it was it would require a citation. Secondly the point of a citation is to back-up a point made in the article, adding the citation halfway down the page is simply pointless. There are two facts that require citation in the opening sentence (1) his original name (2) his birthdate. You've provided (2), now all we need is (1) or I wil just have to go and add a fact tag after his 'name'. I have no interest in trolling through citations for other facts, I'm interested in the one in question being cited. RaseaC (talk) 10:08, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you read WP:POINT lately? It is cited. It is cited all over the place. It is not halfway down the page, it is cited in the opening sentence of the article. And for the record, it is common knowledge. There is no requirement that anything be cited in the infobox or in the lead, so long as a fact is cited. I suppose you would prefer that the same fact be tagged over and over and over? Wildhartlivie (talk) 10:15, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Asking for a cite is not disrupting WP, it's a fundamental part of it. The 'common knowledge' sign is a POV, I would argue that 'the sky is blue' is common knowledge, i.e. a cross section of society are aware of it, NC's birth name is not, that is only likely to be known by fans/film buffs. Therefore it is not common knowledge and either way it's irrelevant because common knowledge or not, it's a fact, and facts need to be cited. Furthermore it was not cited, if you're going to make things up don't say something that can easily be checked with two clicks of the mouse! When I made my first edit there was no cite for his age (just a random database portal) and no cite for his real name. I would prefer that the fact be tagged in it's first instance, but in this case (with regards to his middle name being 'Kim') I can see no citation anywhere in the for this, so it does need citing, please provide a source. Thanks RaseaC (talk) 14:29, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Please contain your comments, specifically, "if you're going to make things up don't say something that can easily be checked with two clicks of the mouse!" No one has made anything up. You expressed doubt about something when there were already two cites in the article - on the first sentence of the main body of the article, to support that he was even a Coppola. The entire early life section concerns his birth and family. The "See also" link actually goes to a family tree for the Coppola family. The California Birth Index is not a dubious source, and as I stated, there is no other Nicolas Coppola in the entire birth index that was born on January 7, 1964. I'd suggest a bit of obtuseness here. There is no requirement anywhere on Wikipedia that states the content in the lead must be cited, but here you are, insisting on it. Sorry, you're being pointy. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:23, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

You said 'it is cited in the opening sentence of the article' which was not the case when I raised my concern, it's in the page history in black and white. I made no suggestion that the CBI was dubious, my point was that simply pointing to a search page is pointless, cites need to be search results, it's like pointing to the bbc.co.uk homepage as a cite for a specific news article. The point in a reference is to allow a reader to quickly and easily verify a fact, not send them on a fact-finding mission. THe obtuseness comment is not necessary. You keep going on about the 'requirement' to cite in the lead, please point to where I made such a claim. I've addressed the point issue, I don't repeat myself in the vain hope that people will take what I say on board the second time. RaseaC (talk) 10:38, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You removed the cite and fact tagged the name in the infobox, despite the fact that there was sufficient content and sourcing to cover most of everything you were claiming was unsupported, including questioning whether he was a member of the Coppola family. This despite the fact that in the first section of the article, all that was discussed was the Coppola family, including the sourced fact that his father is named Coppola, his uncle is named Coppola, his paternal grandfather was named Coppola, and his brothers are named Coppola. And to cap that, you insisted it be sourced "ASAP". Typing "Nicolas Coppola" and "1964" into the search box is not akin to linking to bbc.co.uk as a reference. Hyperbole and pointy as far as I'm concerned. The question is settled. If you feel the need to have the last word, have at it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 12:51, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

The opening also states that he was born Nicolas Kim Coppola, but as I understand it he took Kim when he married current wife Alice Kim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.251.68 (talk) 19:37, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Then please provide a reliable source for that. We can't go on "your understanding". Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Problem with cited refs
The first two refs currently in place have some problems.


 * The first ref has a minor problem in that it is now a dead link and there is no online archive that I can find. Not sure how that works, I am guessing there is a record that can be accessed somewhere. Just FYI.


 * The second ref however is very problematic because it is NOT what it is stated to be. The visible text says it is a State of California record that is being cited but the URL is just a specific search command on a website owned by publishers of a commercial geneaology software program. Here is the current ref wikicode:

This is an unacceptable citation, not even close to being reliable.

I started looking at these ref's because I thought it odd that a boy would be name "Kim" even for a middle name. So far I cannot find any WP:RS to support what his middle name is. 66.102.204.207 (talk) 06:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, I did some more research. It seems this citation was initially created here where the editor incorrectly stated that the familytreelegends website was a searchable version of the official California Birth Index. Here is the ref wikicode that was later reformatted to its current state:




 * Note that the URL is not exactly the same. According to text on the URL in the original citation the search engine is described as follows:

Description: Birth certificates represent one of the key primary sources for family information, typically being issued within days of a birth and containing the parents’ names at a minimum. Many times they contain additional parental details including places of birth, ages, and number of children. Prior to children being born in hospitals, home addresses were noted which is an important fact to understanding where they lived.

Availability of birth records in the United States varies, but most states began requiring them by the early 1900s. In many cases, such as New York, records are available as early as the 1840s. Accessing individual records can be difficult without knowing when a person was born; therefore indexes to birth records are essential in simplifying your search. Most indexes provide a year and certificate number, which allows you to easily access the source document. Source:

California Births, 1905 - 1995. Family Tree Legends Records Collection (Online Database). Pearl Street Software, 2004-2005.


 * Note it says clearly that this is the "Family Tree Legends Records Collection (Online Database)" and not the "California Birth Index". I also tested this database by entering the names and birthdates of some family and friends who were born in California and many of those names had no data. No way this is an official government database or even a copy of one. 66.102.204.207 (talk) 07:37, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 66.102.204.207, 4 July 2010
Not sure if this is a correct use of an edit request but here goes.

It may be necessary to remove (A) actor's official birthdate and (B) actor's original middle-name as uncited information.

I noticed problems with two of the citations for this article. I have commented on these on the talk page in some detail. Since BLP policies talk about removing uncited information agressively I felt I should have someone with edit access take a look at what I found.

66.102.204.207 (talk) 07:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done This was perfectly good use of editsemiprotected. I remember a bunch of edits ages ago that removed and replaced Cage's middle name (see this and previous edits); in hindsight I probably should have removed his middle name at the time.  I've tagged the USAtoday link as dead as it's not retrievable through the wayback machine.  I've removed Cage's birthdate for now... There are many sites that give Jan 7, 1964, as his birthdate but I'll need to leave citing one of them to someone with more time and/or knowledge of which of those sites, if any, are reliable.  66.102.204.207, someone with your thoroughness and dilligence really needs to create an account.  Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 14:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Apologies
Apologies to Eversman and Planet-man828 – it looks like in my edit described above I must have edited from an old version of the article, inadvertantly losing a whole lot of cited information added in intervening edits. I re-did my edit from the last version by Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, except that I didn't remove Cage's birthdate this time as the Tiscali reference appeared reliable. Then I re-added the reference added by Eversman. I think the other intervening edits by Eversman and Planet-man828 were, in effect, re-doing edits I'd accidentally undone. So I think now everything is properly restored and nothing has been lost. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 04:25, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Psilocybin mushroom
On David Letterman, he admitted to taking schrooms when his cat, Lewis, opened the fridge and took some. He only took it because Lewis did, and they store at each other for hours. Cage admitted he does not use that stuff anymore.

This was interesting, but i didn't know where to put it.


 * Interesting, yes, but per the policy on living persons, something like that can't be added without a reliable source, which IMDb is not. I don't know whether the original WENN source would be considered reliable, but if you wanted you could ask at the reliable sources noticeboard. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 02:13, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

National Treasure 3
He is set to reprise his staring role in National Treasure 3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.148.221 (talk) 23:09, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Season of the Witch
Season of the Witch Nicolas Cage is in is delayed and will be Release  January 7, 2011. so people may whad changed the movie to 2011.

here are the link to prove it http://www.empiretheatres.com/movie/season-witch —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leer5454 (talk • contribs) 15:14, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Weston Coppola Cage
Can you attach this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_Coppola_Cage to Weston Coppola Cage's name. I created a little article on him. Much thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smdownes (talk • contribs) 18:50, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

The Untouchables: Capone Rising
Somebody should add this movie to his filmography for 2012. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.220.80 (talk) 19:58, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Drive Angry- Post-production?
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't beleive Drive Angry is "post-production" any longer. Ahopp (talk) 01:40, 6 March 2011 (UTC)Ahopp

auto-censured 84.210.21.34 (talk) 23:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * What the fuck did I just read? Bobber0001 (talk) 11:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

'The Frozen Ground'
A new film should be put on Nicolas Cage's filmography stating that he will appear in 'The Frozen Ground' with a possible release date of 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.46.117 (talk) 15:40, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Minor fix
Under Filmography, Adaptation has an extraneous period after the name.

Also under personal life, tat needs to be that: In August 2007, Cage purchased "Grey Craig", a 24,000-square-foot (2,200 m2) brick-and-stone country manor in Middletown, Rhode Island. With an estate occupying 26 acres (110,000 m2) the home has 12 bedrooms, 10 full bathrooms, and ocean views and borders the Norman Bird Sanctuary. The sale ranked among the state of Rhode Island's most expensive residential purchases until eclipsed tat same year, 2007, by the $17.15 million sale of the Miramar mansion on Bellevue Avenue in Newport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigdogproductions (talk • contribs) 00:56, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * What's the change? Feel free to make it yourself. Span (talk) 02:12, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

minor error: repeated words under photo
The words "at the" are typed twice under Nicolas Cage's photo at the beginning of the article. It reads: "Cage at the at the 2011 San Diego Comic-Con International." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Askimwatt (talk • contribs) 14:24, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Home Invasion aka "The Fudgesicle Incident"
So I have several very reliable citations for this but it seems like the sort of thing I should vet here since it's a BLP page.

There's a verified incident in which a mentally disturbed person broke into Cage's house. Cage woke up with the man at his bed, naked except a leather jacket, eating a fudgesicle. The Reuters article actually cites this as a reason Cage moved out of that house in Orange County and into one in the Bahamas. He also cites it as personal experience he applied to the movie Trespass. It was reported by many news organizations this past September.

Does anyone have a problem with me adding a quick note of this incident? Maybe under the real estate subsection of the personal life section, since it has significance for his home ownership history?

--Qwerty0 (talk) 05:41, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Praise and criticism
This section should really be changed to just "Praise". There is scant reference to criticisms, only by virtue of citing praise contrary to apposite critiques of a movie.

Also, speaking of "Praise", I found this weird cult following of Nicolas Cage on reddit, http://www.reddit.com/r/onetruegod/. Should that be mentioned on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.70.62.70 (talk) 16:37, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 June 2012
Nicolas Cage Week

Starting the Monday after father's day, for a whole week, you send your friends a Nicolas Cage scene from a movie for 7 days.

Eofch203 (talk) 03:08, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Unsourced, non-notable gimmick in my book . Span (talk) 05:21, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  REPLY   TOW  talk  08:01, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 September 2012 for Nicolas Cage filmography.
Please change the note section of the film 'Stolen' from 'filming' to 'completed'. Please change the note section of the film 'the frozen ground' to 'post-production' Please change the filmography section by adding the film 'expendables 3' from it not being there. Please change the note section of this film to 'Pre-production'. Please change the filography section by adding the film 'Marble City' from it not being there. Please change the note section of this film to 'Pre-production'. Please change the filmography section by adding the film 'Wild Side' from it not being there. Please change the note section of this film to 'Pre-production'. Sources: http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm0000115/

Kroeger234 (talk) 19:44, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Unfortunately, imdb doesn't meet the guideline. Rivertorch (talk) 11:03, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Filmography goes after References
Filmography goes after References. The filmography section looks really bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.135.0.21 (talk) 19:37, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

New Section?
Maybe mention briefly his constant appearance in memes, namely "You don't Say?" meme.
 * Eh, it's not really that relevant. - A Wild Abigail Appears!  Capture me.   Moves.  03:34, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Death section
He just died, and I cannot edit this page. I'm somehow unable to post the link to a news article on his death, but one can Google it and see. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.174.177.155 (talk) 23:01, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a typical celebrity death hoax. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 01:51, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * IP 177.174.177.155, you just provided a perfect illustration of why the article needs to be semiprotected. Rivertorch (talk) 05:46, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm just a random dude - but I don't think Nicolas cage died yesterday. I removed the section, Because there is no news of that event anywhere else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.194.72.10 (talk) 20:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that. That was vandalism, and the person who added it has since been warned .  Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 01:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Brubaker cameo -- real?
Do we have any information from a supporting reputable source that he was actually in Brubaker? Banaticus (talk) 17:30, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Four of us just watched Brubaker last night and looked for Nic in the backround of every scene. We didn't see him. March 7, 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.134.139.76 (talk) 18:39, 7 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I've added a "citation needed" tag to the Brubaker entry. Rivertorch (talk) 23:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to Hollywood cameo -- not real!
Nicolas Cage is not in the end credits of this movie. We also did not even see him in the background of any of the shots. It says that he was in this movie on here and IMDB and Netflix, but it is not accurate. I think all of these sources must have copied each other. March 7, 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.134.139.76 (talk) 18:45, 7 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I've added a "citation needed" tag to the Welcome to Hollywood entry. IMdB is defintely not accepted as a reliable source around here. Rivertorch (talk) 23:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Internet image
I think it's worth putting somewhere that Nicholas Cage is constantly the butt of jokes on blogging sites like Tumblr, who use his face as part of the "You don't say" meme. He also has been featured on parody posts and the like. --Matt723star (talk) 19:02, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, he is considered to be nicolas cage, albeit semi-jokingly, on the subreddit r/OneTrueGod — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.237.60.30 (talk) 23:33, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

"Nicolas Cage is in Everything"
Although memes generally don't constitute enough importance to be mentioned in wikipedia, this one is entirely related to Nicolas Cage and his career, not to mention he himself has commented on it (albeit briefly). As such, doesn't it warrant a mention in the article? 67.10.113.37 (talk) 16:39, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * How is that relevant to Nicolas Cage's career? Nymf hideliho! 19:48, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Michael Bay's page briefly mentions parodies under the "Criticism" section. I don't see why something like that shouldn't be included here 220.244.44.207 (talk) 15:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 September 2013
In 2013, several fan groups in honour of Nicolas Cage have been created. Although they a small, we intend to spread the word of Nicolas so more people can experience his outstanding acting ability. The crew 'The Nico Cagers' has been created for the online video game Grand Theft Auto 5. We intend to storm this vital world and make him leader of the world. Once we have done this vitally,we will proceed to make him world leader in reality.

Hippolascage (talk) 13:49, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * ❌ -- This unsourced material does not belong in the encyclopedia. -- Diannaa (talk) 00:55, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Introduction
The introduction prior to the contents is full of grammatical mistakes, in particular the last paragraph does not make sense. Unfortunately I cannot edit this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.38.153 (talk) 10:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Most recently..
Will someone please change 'Crug' to 'Grug'. It's wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.147.196.3 (talk) 19:32, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Introduction Movie Year Error
In the Introduction towards the top of the article the movie "Birdy" is mislabeled as being released in 1985 contrary to the statement below saying he did not release a movie in 1985 and also contrary to "Birdy"'s Wikipedia page which states its release as being "December 21, 1984" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.47.47 (talk) 04:57, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Acting style
Another phrase I have heard him use (in this Vanity Fair article: http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2013/09/nicolas-cage-joe-toronto-film-festival) is "American kabuki." I believe that there is merit to this description, as his more over the top performances do bear some resemblance to arigoto-style acting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.129.168.9 (talk) 11:53, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

"Political and Religious Views" section is very poorly worded
In this section is the following statement:

During his visit to University of California, Santa Cruz he has stated he's not politically active actor and that he can do it in his work as he learned more about nuclear power from the movie The China Syndrome.

This is a grammatical trainwreck to the point of meaninglessness. It needs to be rewritten. 98.27.225.144 (talk) 21:06, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Internet Infamy
Nicolas Cage has been known on the internet as the "One True Nicolas Cage". The people that follow him are known as Nicolites and there are more than 70,000 followers. This infamy came to be with the many photoshops of The Cage's face in many different places. These pictures are commonly captioned as "Our Lord and Savior blesses us in his presence in the form of...." . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoopes (talk • contribs) 16:35, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 November 2014
50.240.166.101 (talk) 16:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC) Is a distant relative. Great Grand father married a Tomaselli.

If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 17:43, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not requested a specific change.

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2015
In the Filmography section, please view the source code. There is ONE movie that puts the ending  tag AFTER the year of the movie. It makes parsing the code for data very difficult because of the one inconsistency in the pattern. I request that the  be moved to before the (2007) text, please.

134.173.248.4 (talk) 07:26, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done, thanks. By the way, if you just write "", it won't show up here.  You can instead write "". Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 07:50, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

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Dead
He was dead 2016 cause of accident — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.81.78.181 (talk) 12:01, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * that's a hoax Snuggums (talk / edits) 12:41, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Missing movie
In 1992 Nicholas Cage was in Red Rock West. He played Michael Williams, the main character. The movie is on the co-star's (Dennis Hopper's) filmography, why isn't it on Cage's? 70.247.253.94 (talk) 02:18, 1 November 2010 (UTC)I_T    10/31/10

Raising Arizona is also missing. He played the main character. Chephsteph81 (talk) 19:19, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Snowden (Film)
I am fairly new, looking to make contributions. Under his "Filmography", the Snowden film has not yet been added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizardzorander1 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

OOP- Just saw the post above- this is a partial list. Ignore this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizardzorander1 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2017
Please add his best movie -Gone in 60 seconds, to his page.. one of the best films ever made and it is nowhere to be found on this page. Thanks 2600:8801:B208:CB00:44B6:EB20:8561:432D (talk) 05:39, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It can be found in the Nicolas Cage filmography page. regards,  DRAGON BOOSTER   ★  07:38, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
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Add please
Gone in 60 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1012:B15F:E1BB:A013:1464:5E34:90E0 (talk) 04:47, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Alternative introduction
How about this -

Nicolas Cage (born Nicolas Kim Coppola;[1] January 7, 1964) is an Academy Award-winning American actor. Some of his notable roles include Leaving Las Vegas(????), Face/Off (1997), Ghost Rider (2007), and National Treasure (2004).

Thanks Kvsh5 (talk) 21:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, that isn't adequate for the lead. We don't inserted "Academy Award-winning" into lead sentences because the lead sentence should only cover what makes the person notable. Cage is a notable actor, the awards came later and did not serve to make him notable. The rest of the lead should provide at least a brief summary of the rest of the entire article and should have some minor details. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:06, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever. You're saying that his acting made him notable, and that the awards are NOT notable.  You've got it backwards.  There are a HUGE number of gifted and talented actors out there who have delivered great performances that do not receive awards.  Do they all get a WP page??  No, of course not.  No matter how great they are, we never know about most of them.  Look up the word "notable" and learn what it means.  The fact that Cagewon the awards is EXACTLY what makes him notable. That, and who he's related to. I've seen some of his early work.  Believe me, that wouldn't get anyone an WP page for being noteworthy.  You are wrong.  98.194.39.86 (talk) 02:01, 24 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Furthermore, this article reads like it was written by a press agent, and has selective amnesia. This is NOT a good article. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 02:01, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Meaning of 'prolificity'
What is the meaning of 'prolificity' described in the beginning of this article :"Cage is known for his prolificity". -- Jos  eph   11:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

It just means he has been in a lot of movies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:77A0:90:5564:C9D1:1DC5:83D1 (talk) 01:38, 18 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Then next time, just say "He has been or starred in over NN movies, spanning a career of over XX years." Three-dollar words just make the article (and author) sound pretentious, and make it difficult for the average reader to enjoy. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 02:06, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Add Link to Filmography in Contents Box at the top
To be consistent with other actor's articles, please add a section and link to "Nicolas Cage filmography" within the Contents text box. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 02:10, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * that would be repetitive when the "acting" section already has a link to his filmography page, plus a section solely containing a referral link would be uninformative and therefore flat out useless. Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 02:14, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

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No mention of the movie "Valley Girl"? Is it there but I just didn't see it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.220.230 (talk) 02:07, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Article Evaluation
This article goes into the life of Nicolas Cage. As I was reading the article, I noticed that he is being referred to be dead. Not a correct statement. Not all of his movies seem to be in this section either. The talk page is talking about certain comments on his wife being sexist. There are a few grammar mistakes that could be fixed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patel4ah (talk • contribs) 21:58, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2016
There is another movie: "Gone in 60 seconds"(2000)

Tonzi054 (talk) 11:46, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but as stated at Nicolas_Cage, this article only has a partial list of Cage's films. The full list is too long to include here, but is at Nicolas Cage filmography. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 12:31, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

it's one of his better known pop-films for the twentysomething generation, should be added in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.195.41.162 (talk) 17:32, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Nicolas Cage
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Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2019
The following phrase:"In November 2019, Italian youtuber and philosopher Riccardo Dal Ferro defended Cage's method, compariring it with Carmelo Bene's experimentations in the world of the theatre." it's put here only to advertise the youtuber, it's a video with less than 10.0000 visualization and his opinion has not any academic relevance. i think this sentence must be discarded 78.134.59.94 (talk) 20:10, 15 November 2019 (UTC)


 * ✅ –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 21:35, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Offiical site
The "Official Site" link appears to be vandalism - it goes to a website that sells random stuff. Kthomas2901 (talk) 19:33, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Removed – Thjarkur (talk) 22:27, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2020
2605:6000:170D:C0B3:B5C2:2291:371:6F0B (talk) 04:26, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Abed from Community describes him as a SEXY CAT in the Nicolas Cage acting method.


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: unsourced, questionable significance . Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 06:03, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 August 2020
There's a sentence fragment: "but the film was disqualified because was also released on VOD on September 14", which should be changed to "but the film was disqualified because it was also released on VOD on September 14".


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Pay the Ghost
I wonder why this Nicolas Cage film is mentioned only in the references but not in the article text. I really thought this comprehensive filmography would include all of his works ... --Hodsha (talk) 19:22, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Unsure how to initiate a correction, but partecipation is misspelled
Unsure how to initiate a correction, but partecipation is misspelled Wantenna (talk) 22:12, 14 January 2021 (UTC)


 * In exactly the same way that you edited this Talk page, added your comments, and saved it, you can edit the article page, make your change, then save it. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  23:33, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Italian descent
The page explicitly states that he is of Italian descent, but the "American people of Italian descent" category is missing, meaning his Italian ancestry is too far away to be mentioned. This category, however, is present on the pages of several of his ancestors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.165.249.157 (talk) 10:17, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

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The link in reference 4 simply doesn't work
It just leads to a blank page, you should replace it with https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/08/07/enduring-strangeness-nicolas-cage/ which is the correct link for the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xxo00oxX (talk • contribs) 04:28, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * . Please sign your edits on any Talk page. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 04:36, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Thespian?
In this article: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/dec/31/call-me-a-thespian-not-an-actor-says-nicolas-cage?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other, Cage says he prefers to be referred to as a “thespian” as opposed to an actor. Should this be reflected in the lead? Asrieltheoracle (talk) 14:41, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Those terms mean the same thing, so that just seems to be him preferring one type of terminology and (by his own admission) sounding pretentious about it. Not worth a change. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 16:00, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Tiger king production
There is a reference to the planned tiger king series continuing production and uses an article as a citation. This is citation 88 on the page. This article makes absolutely no mention to production continuing. 110.175.146.79 (talk) 12:01, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Acting
So you left out a film that Nicholas Cage starred in which was Willy’s Wonderland. It came out in 2020 with a famous youtuber co starring in it called Christian DelaGrosso. I would be so happy if you added that, he may have not spoken but he was the main actor in the movie and I personally enjoyed the movie. 204.29.78.174 (talk) 18:43, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Cult following

 * His participation in various film genres during this time increased his popularity and gained him a cult following. (lede)
 * Cult following: A film, book, musical artist, television series, or video game, among other things, is said to have a cult following when it has a small, but very passionate fanbase.

Do you see the problem here? His popularity increased to the point where he now has a small fanbase. One wonders whether he will ever become well-known to the general film-going community. He's been around a long time, so perhaps he's not trying very hard to make a name for himself.

Well, that's how it reads. Comments. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  19:24, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 March 2022
In 2016, Cage starred in the movie "Army of One"/ The film is inspired by the true story of Gary Faulkner (Nicolas Cage), a handyman who receives a vision from God (Russell Brand) telling him to capture Osama bin Laden. Dan Staudacher (talk) 04:03, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Army of One is appropriately listed at Nicolas Cage filmography. We are not going to mention every work in which Cage appears in his biography; that is the function of his filmography. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 04:09, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Elon Musk & Vegas Movie studio
Cage mentioned it in his Kimmel interview and a bunch of outlets picked it up, cant find anything on from before the interview unfortunately. Still seems relevant enough to include in the article if the story can be verified. (Variety People) --jonas (talk) 12:20, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

I found what appears to be an outright fabrication - with a completely inapplicable footnote!
Re: Section titled:

1981–1988: Early work and breakthrough

The second sentence in the third paragraph, "The film was a success, but Cage did not want appear in the film, only agreeing to do so if he could perform in an over-the-top manner, and claims of Cage's on-set antics made by Turner years later resulted in Cage successfully suing her for defamation.[30]" appears to be an outright fabrication - with a completely inapplicable footnote to support it! Can an editor please remove this sentence from the article? MusaVeneziana (talk) 23:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ thank you for pointing this out, and it indeed wasn't supported by the given citation. I've removed that bit altogether. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 00:25, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

"exemplar of method acting"
"an exemplar of method acting." sounds POV to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.110.12.216 (talk • contribs) 07:23, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

"Left Behind Film to be added to list of films"
Cage has been confirmed to star in the up-coming film "left behind" which is due out in 2014, please add it to the list of films. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevlauk (talk • contribs) 22:10, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Minor Edit: Grammar
There's a sentence fragment in the intro:

'''Though his performances in The Weather Man (2005), Lord of War (2005), The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans (2009), and Kick-Ass (2010) he earned critical acclaim. Films such as Ghost Rider (2007) and Knowing (2009) were box office successes.''' Cage has been strongly criticized in recent years for his choice of roles, some of which have been universally panned.[2][3] However, he recently starred in The Croods and Joe, both of which were warmly received by critics.

This should be fixed:

Cage's performances in The Weather Man (2005), Lord of War (2005), The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans (2009), and Kick-Ass (2010) earned him critical acclaim. While films such as Ghost Rider (2007) and Knowing (2009) were box office successes, Cage has been strongly criticized in recent years for his choice of roles, some of which have been universally panned.[2][3] However, he recently starred in The Croods and Joe, both of which were warmly received by critics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nicolas_Cage&action=edit&section=new# — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmallPlanetRadio (talk • contribs) 15:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Confusing Paragraph Under CAREER-Actor
The current text is as follows: "In November 2019, Cage was cast as a fictionalized version of himself in the comedy-drama The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, co-starring Pedro Pascal and Tiffany Haddish.[84][85] In May 2020 it was announced that Cage would be playing the role of Joe Exotic in a scripted eight-episode Tiger King series, written and executive produced by Dan Lagana.[86] It was announced that the project was scrapped in July 2021.[87] However production was resumed and film is scheduled to be theatrically released on April 22, 2022.[88]"

This makes it sound like production on the Tiger King series has resumed when, in fact, it is The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent that will be released on April 22, 2022. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.176.83.189 (talk) 03:29, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

His huge dept to IRS
I propose to add this important information to the article. There are no information that he took every possible role to pay off his dept to IRS. Which is why he played in so many bad movies, he had 8 nominations to Golden Rasbery Awards. This is important information that is missing in the article. If someone could add this information to the article it would be great You can use it as footnote. And yes I know that Wikipage pages are not a forum. jcubic (talk) 23:12, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Cage edits his own article?
In GQ's "Actually Me" video, released March 22, 2022, Nicolas Cage is depicted visiting Wikipedia and editing this article. It was probably faked. No sign of it in the edit history, and (unlike the other celebrities) he did not appear to have created an account for himself. Elizium23 (talk) 12:36, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Snake Eyes
Why is Snake Eyes (1998) not mentioned? 74.219.196.142 (talk) 18:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)


 * It's listed here.   -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 00:16, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Age is wrong
132-64=68 2601:547:CA00:C090:50BB:1519:197E:24E8 (talk) 22:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * ❌ Unclear what "132-64=68" means (maybe you're thinking it's 2032?), but someone born in 1964 who has already had a birthday this year is 59 years old. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 23:55, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I failed at math lmfao 173.79.49.66 (talk) 22:34, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

nic Cage "reprises" his role?
that sentence should be worded a little bit differently, since he never actually starred as superman in the unproducted "Superman Lives" film. 2600:6C5D:0:A41:A92D:19BD:EE44:F440 (talk) 20:22, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Missing movie from filmography
In 2019 Nick Cage was cast to play in the movie Willy's Wonderland, where he chose to act with no dialogue. 2603:6011:2847:6900:5B2E:8161:1946:C30B (talk) 03:09, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Recent changes to lead
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