Talk:Nontheist Quakers

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I've already expanded this 'Nontheist Friends' entry once, and will continue to do so. Thanks, Aphilo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aphilo (talk • contribs) 22:17, 21 June 2007


 * Hey Aphilo,


 * I'm afraid it's really not within Wikipedia etiquette to remove templates placed to highlight problems with an article until the problem has been resolved, as such the creator of an article should not be removing deletion-templates. That's why I've put it back until an administrator, or consensus over here sees it fit to remove it.


 * Paul Carpenter 05:26, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I've removed the CSD, as it does not match a specific criterion nor is it promotion. WP:PROD or WP:AFD, but no speedy on this.   Keegan talk 06:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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Description is lacking
I've read this twice and as an outsider I'm still not sure what the article is trying to say. Perhaps someone with insight could rewrite it? Also, "Friends" with capital 'F'... What is that? Is it a name for something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.110.44.130 (talk) 16:45, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm unsure what you find unclear about the definition. A nontheist quaker is a Quaker who is not a theist; those articles provide more information about what Quakers and theists are, is there some specific important information from there you think needs to be included in this article? And a "Friend" with a capital "F" is a member of the Society of Friends, which is to say, a Quaker, which I think the link to Society of Friends makes clear; is there some way you would put it that would make that more clear? --Pfhorrest (talk) 00:35, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Your description already made it more clear. I think the article would benefit a lot from explaining the name Friend as the word is easily misunderstood by outsiders. I do not believe links to other articles is sufficient as the reader is then forced to read long articles in where the word might not even be explained. I see now that it's not a typo but others could get that impression. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.110.44.130 (talk) 05:02, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Why the atheist material here?
I can kind of see the sense in adding material about Christian non-theism in general (and not just Quakers) but since this article is about Quaker non-theism and not attempting to promote non-theism to Quakers I don’t understand the need for atheist material such as Richard Dawkins in this particular article. To my mind it makes the article appear as if written by a non-theistic Quaker rather than being an objective encyclopaedic entry. Any thoughts? Dakinijones (talk) 11:44, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Website in References now redirects to virus site
Citation #4, ""NontheistFriends.org". www.nontheistfriends.org.", now redirects to a malware site. The original site is gone. While preserving sources is a good idea, having a live link to a dangerous website with no relevant information is a very bad thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.2.72.81 (talk) 16:30, 17 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Seems fine atm.—Protalina (talk) 21:19, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Regarding "The term 'non-theistic' first appeared in a Quaker publication in 1952 on conscientious objection.[2]"
This is prompted by seeing the tag [non-primary source needed]. The term 'non-theistic' appears on p. 87 of the publication cited (Internet Archive — registration required). To my understanding, though, it's used there in a general sense, and is not specifically referring to nontheistic Quakerism: and furthermore, 'nontheism' and 'non-theistic' have longer histories. Also, is the publication concerned best described as a "Quaker publication"? Looking at the article about the publisher, several non-Quaker organisations would seem to be involved as well. What's the best way forward here? —Protalina (talk) 21:17, 15 June 2024 (UTC)