Talk:Nouveau riche

Merging
There's nothing fundamentally different that sets tuhaos apart from any other nouveau riche. This article should be merged into the article Nouveau Riche as a section. 69.165.211.244 (talk) 14:25, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed and ✅ Klbrain (talk) 23:14, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The Chinese term Tuhao should have its own article rather than merging it here. Right now, over half of the content in this article "Nouveau riche" is about the Chinese word Tuhao.  The length alone indicates that it needs to be its own article.  Also, the meaning of Tuhao doesn't match completely with Nouveau riche, as Tuhao has several different meanings depends on context; there is a classic literary definition and a modern popular slang one. Better to explain it in its own article.--Febetsh23 (talk) 08:02, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

historical
This article lacks mention of historical nouveau riche, as in Soviet Russia, historical noble class vs. nouveau riche, etc. --Clementduval 01:36, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The article stereotypes "new rich" as people who spend money too wastefully.

Discrimination
These days the discrimination is often against Old Money, not New Money. "The sperm lottery" is what they call inherited wealth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.59.249 (talk) 01:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Rap Artists?
This subject sounds like newly rich people who like bling-bling. Would Rap artists fit into this category? 4.244.201.231 03:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

dave chappelle
how does dave chappelle fall under this category? he lives on a farm in ohio not a mega mansion in beverly hills?he doesnt drive a super fancy car,and doestn wear any "bling bling"

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nouveau_riche"

julia roberts et al
The same goes for Julia Roberts and Angelina Jolie. I don't think they're famous for flaunting their money and spending conspicuously. Also I reckon Oprah doesn't spend that much considering the amount of her income.

Paris Hilton?
Sure she's know for flashing her money around, but she's like a 4th generation heiress, hard to call her "noveau riche"...66.72.215.225 14:39, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, even if the Hilton main guy, her grandfather or whatever he was to her, was nouveau riche himself, she's always lived in the wealth she is living in now, so she's definitely not a n r. Dollvalley 14:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Dave Chappelle
I've removed Dave. He's a Muslim who lives on a farm, drives regular cars and is by all accounts a humble dude. See how long his name stays off this time. WORLDS MOST ACCURATE ENCYCLOPEDIA

I second that, however thankfully not all articles are biased like this one. And if you read the definition of nouveau riche properly, you would remove several people off this list. Since when is Oprah spending money conspicuously and lacks taste, I mean, Paris Hilton is the best example but only is she was poor and suddenly inherited money, which is not the case. Why this list exists is beyond me. It's simply ridiculous. Dollvalley 15:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

What Dave's religion has to do with this is beyond all of us 98.206.29.95 14:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC) Daniel

NPOV
Here's an attempt to make it a bit more NPOV. Let me know if you think the lack of neutrality comment can be removed. Steggall 03:20 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Since there has been no comment at all, I'm going to remove the NPOV header. If you think it should be restored, please indicate your reasons here.   Steggall 20:20 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Fictional examples
I just moved the following section here from the mainpage as it contained no citations establishing that these characters have been called "nouveau riche". If anybody is willing to properly source these claims feel free to do so.


 * Malachi Constant in Sirens of Titan
 * Jiggs and Maggie in the Bringing Up Father comic strip
 * Jay Gatsby from F. Scott Fitzgerald's novel The Great Gatsby
 * The main characters of "Entourage".
 * Montgomery Brewster from George Barr McCutcheon's Brewster's Millions
 * Rodney Dangerfield's character Al Czervik in Caddyshack
 * Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights
 * Jackie Mason's Jack Hartounian in Caddyshack II.
 * Steve Martin's title role as The Jerk.
 * Baron Danglars and Fernand Mondego in The Count of Monte Cristo.
 * Arthur Birling in An Inspector Calls.
 * Kazuya Aoike in Boys Over Flowers.
 * Alan B'stard in The New Statesman
 * The Beverly Hillbillies
 * The Van Dort family from Corpse Bride
 * Brett Messerschmidt from The It Girl
 * Vito Corleone in The Godfather
 * Tracey Ullman's role in Small Time Crooks.
 * Dudley "Booger" Dawson's prospective inlaws in '' Revenge of the Nerds IV: Nerds in Love
 * Philip Pirrip (Pip) in '' Great Expectations
 * The Miller Family in Daisy Miller
 * Alec D'Urberville in Tess of the D'Urbervilles
 * Penelope Hayes and the Hayes Family from The Luxe

-- Them From  Space  23:33, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It seems to me this list would be hard to cite fully, but some of them are painfully obvious and I think should go back in. For example, The Great Gatsby and The Beverly Hillbillies are both so integrally linked to the "new rich" concept per their plot synopses I think those don't need a citation.  Some are a little less obvious and could use citations or should simply be omitted.  The Corleones in The Godfather...while it's true that they are a rags to (illicit) riches family, it's not a core part of the plot.  Although, I think I remember it coming up at some point, but it might've been in the context of everyone knowing why they're rich. CSZero (talk) 16:55, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Social status problematic
The social status section is unclear. It includes many quotes that sound like opinions, but does not mention whose opinions they are (besides including citations). Also, the opinions are stated as facts. Furthermore, these opinions are about particular places, but the section reads as if it universally applies to the whole world and all societies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.2.129.151 (talk) 03:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)