Talk:OTs-14 Groza

Photo
The following (admittedly poor) photo depicts a variant of the weapon in question:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AGS17.jpg

For lack of another image, would it be OK to put it in? 75.170.82.115 (talk) 20:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Naming inconsistency
The title of the article is romanized as "OC," while in the text it is romanized as "OTs." Could someone rename either as per the consensus on the rename decision? 69.255.170.55 (talk) 20:43, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/ c 19:08, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

OC-14-4A → OTs-14 Groza – 1) Ts is the official transliteration of Ц. 2) The weapon is commonly known as Groza 3) 4A is one of several variants. G_PViB (talk) 14:14, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
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Sources for advantages and disadvantages section
I don't suppose we could move that subsection to this talk page? Here's a list of sources for some of the points discussed in that section.

The Groza's short sight radius (called a "short sight base") on its iron sights

A video showing how the grenade launcher and the suppressor cannot be simultaneously fitted on the Groza.

A video of the Groza being disassembled and reassembled.

A blog with photos of some 9x39mm bullets fired from a Groza failing to penetrate steel target plates.

Do we really need something like a translated Russian manual for this gun in order to say that the grenade launcher and suppressor can't be fitted together on the Groza? I thought that just by looking at the photos of the Groza that it's clear the two accessories can't be fitted on the Groza at the same time, because each would obstruct the other. Some Russian-fluent wikipedians might have to step in to read up on any relevant sources here (I'm not sure if the world.guns.ru link I shared above is enough to source the claim that it left service after the late 1990s). And why do we still have a render of the Groza instead of a photo for this page? --198.96.87.68 (talk) 22:03, 5 October 2016 (UTC)