Talk:Oei Hui-lan

what does "solid roots" mean? 152.91.9.9 (talk) 06:19, 5 June 2019 (UTC)jc

Requested move 12 April 2018

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The result of the move request was: use Oei Hui-lan, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 00:40, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Oei Hui Lan → Oei Hui-lan – – reasons below ClaraElisaOng (talk) 13:08, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

It is also the spelling of her name under which she is best known in English language publications and at international public institutions, for example: The romanisation and spelling of her name would have been very important to Mme Koo as a Chinese-Indonesian with limited familiarity with Chinese languages, living for the most part in western countries. I think you should move the article back to Oei Hui-lan.
 * you moved Oei Hui-lan to Oei Hui Lan. The latter is indeed the standard orthography for Chinese-Indonesian names. Mme Koo, however, was not a typical Chinese-Indonesian and chose to spell her name "Hui-lan". I feel that we ought to respect her decision. This is also the spelling Mme Koo herself chose when she published her two memoirs, see:
 * Hui-lan Koo (Madame Wellington Koo): An Autobiography as Told to Mary Van Rensselaer Thayer
 * No Feast Lasts Forever
 * At the National Portrait Gallery in London: https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person/mp54442/madame-wellington-koo-nee-hui-lan-oei
 * At the Peranakan Museum in Singapore: http://masterpieces.asemus.museum/masterpiece/detail.nhn?objectId=14129


 * Support - you could actually just move it back without discussion. The onus is on the other user to justify their undiscussed move. -Zanhe (talk) 19:39, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It might be a good idea to have a public discussion to prevent future undiscussed or unreferenced moves and edits. ClaraElisaOng (talk) 01:08, 14 April 2018 (UTC)


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Solid
The lead has: What is "solid"? Wealthy? Famous? Stemmed from influential families? I don't think "solid" is a word we can use here.--Nø (talk) 12:36, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Both the parents of Oei Hui-lan had solid roots;

Possible death date/ wrong birth year.
There's an obituary on Newspaperarchives.com for "Huilan Koo" of New York, Dec. 21 1896 - Dec. 1, 1992. These dates are "based on data from the US Government's Social Security Death Index." This same information can also be found here, which also cites the SSDI. Ancestry.com shows this same Huilan Koo (in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007) filed a social security application on 12 Apr 1966 in the state of New York, living in New York city, and listed their father as "T H Oer" and mother as "B N Goer", though I'm thinking the 'r's on both parents names may have been mistakenly recorded on the file description as simply replacing the letter 'r' with the letter 'i' would perfectly match up their names and initials with that of Oei Hui-lan's parents. Lemunz (talk) 04:46, 14 June 2019 (UTC)