Talk:Operation Castle

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SkoreKeep (talk) 02:28, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Thermonuclear reactions
"... had speculated that Bravo could 'go big', estimating that the device could produce an explosive yield as much as 20% more than had been originally calculated. The Li-7 component turned out to be an excellent source of tritium [H-3] through a previously unquantified [nuclear] reaction." After all these years, that nuclear reaction cannot possibly be a secret. If you are going to mention it, you should tell what it is, along with the publically-known reaction for Li-6: Li-6 + n --> He-4 + H-3 (helium plus tritium). In addition, the phrase "unquantified reaction" is a piece of gibberish. Please use Plain English, such as one of these: "unknown nuclear reaction", "unstudied nuclear reaction", "unexpected reaction", "heretofore unobserved reaction". Please use the closest simple expression that fits, rather than doubletalk. 47.215.180.7 (talk) 04:45, 17 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Someone with more knowledge of nuclear physics can explain the following with certainty. Here are some hypothetical nuclear reactions that would generate tritium under extreme conditions:
 * Li-7 + n --> He-4 + H-3 + n
 * Li-7 + n --> He-3 + H-3 + H-2 + electron
 * Li-7 + 2n --> He-4 + H-3 + H-2 + electron
 * Li-7 + 3n --> He-4 + 2H-3 + electron
 * The usual reaction involving Li-7 is Li-7 + n --> 2He-4 + electron
 * This is because of the incredible nuclear stability of He-4.
 * Two similar well-known reactions are Be-9 + n --> 2He-4 + 2n
 * and Li-7 + p --> 2He-4 (Be-8 is practically unknown.)
 * He-4 is an extremely common product of such nuclear reactions. Getting H-3 is more difficult.

47.215.180.7 (talk) 05:21, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Low importance article??
Low importance article?? "This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale." This is a statement of extreme nonsense. That is because the very large H-bomb test called Castle Bravo was a very important one in American history, scientific history, diplomatic history (because of the innocent Japanese and Micronesians who were irradiated and harmed, and even killed), American military history. The Castle series of tests also proved the validity of the "dry" thermonuclear bomb using Li-6 deuteride. 47.215.180.7 (talk) 06:01, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

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Erroneous information and poor citations
I've removed the claim that the Zombie device was a boosted fission weapon. It's complete nonsense and defies the generally accepted position that the largest fission test was Grapple 2. This was particularly frustrating to confirm as the table citation only talks of weapon yield and not weapon technical details.

I've also removed the 3 stage claim for Zombie. The article on the Mk15 makes it clear that the Mark 15 was not a three stage device and the statement was uncited.Kylesenior (talk) 16:22, 21 June 2021 (UTC)