Talk:Outer Drive

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Outer Drive continues, with a few breaks, all the way to the far East side of Detroit. This should be incorporated into the article. --The Great Zo 20:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Tagged... this article has no sources and it could really use some context here (history of the name etc).--Isotope23 17:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

some info here http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6585

WikiProject "jurisdiction"
This article should be moved out of the Michigan State Highways Project. It has never been a state trunkline, nor was it constructed by the state. It should be part of the WP:USST only instead. --Imzadi1979 (talk) 07:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Given no objections for over 2 weeks, this article has been detagged from WP:MSHP. Imzadi1979 (talk) 20:09, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Retagged as Arbitration enforcement. See the temporary injunction, second sentence.  The dispute is evidenced in this talk page's history.  I encourage building consensus here while the case is pending - if consensus is reached it will no longer be a matter of dispute.  GRBerry 18:38, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Please also see the project scope at WP:MSHP. This is not a numbered state highway in Michigan, ergo is is outside of the MSHP project scope. MSHP is an autonomous WikiProject and it's editors are not direct parties to the ArbCom case affecting USRD. With no objections logged in 2 weeks, there was no consensus to force this article to remain under MSHP's jurisdiction. There is no controversy here, only someone else forcing a decision back onto an autonomous project not a direct party to the ArbCom case. --Imzadi1979 (talk) 21:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The arbitration injunction is in force. WikiProject Michigan State Highways clearly identifies this as a sub-project of WikiProject U.S. Roads.  The injunction, reads "The project page for WikiProject U.S. Roads will be unprotected to allow normal use, but its scope and approach should not be changed at least until the case is closed. No disputed cases shall be added to or removed from USRD or subprojects, at least until the case is closed."  I told the reporting editor to come discuss, but whether or not they do, the project tagging should not be changed until after Requests for arbitration/Highways 2 closes.  GRBerry 21:47, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Please also note that under the notice posted at WP:USRD, "Until the case closes, any uninvolved administrator who is neither a party to the case, nor a member of the WikiProject, may revert any change that modifies these pages or WikiProjects contentiously, and such a change should not be repeated." NE2 made the last project tagging reversion. NE2 is a party to the ArbCom case. It was improper for him to violate the injunction and revert changes made. --Imzadi1979 (talk) 21:48, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

indent reset: Actually, a check of the talk page history shows that one editor was responsible for tagging it under MSHP in the first place. Three other editors, myself included, have retagged it only to be reverted by the same editor each time. Arguably, this single editor violates the consensus of others' retagging by reverting. We seek only to enforce MSHP's project scope, derived in 2006, predating this editor's attempts to force the article under the jurisdiction of a project that doesn't want it. I posted a request to retag the article on 12 February in good faith only to be reverted days after making the change. I submit this, and other articles like it fall outside the long-established project scope of a fully-functioning WikiProject granted autonomy under USRD to conduct its affairs as it sees fit. MSHP rejected this article, yet one editor keeps trying to force it into a project that does not want it. --Imzadi1979 (talk) 22:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)