Talk:Over the Garden Wall

"First miniseries"
What about the Clone Wars miniseries about ten years back? 24.110.21.248 (talk) 09:07, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Episode Descroptions
The episode descriptions given here are shite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.210.73 (talk) 17:57, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi . You're right, the episode descriptions could *ahem* use some work. Some are too long, some are too short, and some are just, as you put it, shit. But guess what? This is Wikipedia! You can edit the descriptions yourself to make them not-shitty! We need as many people editing this as possible to make it the best it can be, and I for one would love to have you editing this article. Luthien22 (talk) 04:08, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Requested moves

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The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the pages at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 07:53, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

– Clear primary topic (see the views of TV series vs. the three other films:  ). 23W 09:59, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Over the Garden Wall (TV series) → Over the Garden Wall
 * Over the Garden Wall → Over the Garden Wall (disambiguation)
 * Oppose page views for WP:RECENT entertainment will always be higher,  in this case the cartoon looks like the least notable not the most. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:06, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose first move, support second This is one of the least notable examples of a film that uses the title Over the Garden Wall, so I oppose moving this page. However, I do support moving the page Over the Garden Wall to Over the Garden Wall (disambiguation), since it isn't an article, but a disambiguation page. Luthien22 (talk) 01:19, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Which one, the 1934 play-based film or the 1950 comedy sketch film? --George Ho (talk) 03:31, 11 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose per IIO -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 06:14, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose both proposals - Too soon, and the films may be equally notable as the TV show. Too bad the film articles are stubs right now. --George Ho (talk) 03:31, 11 November 2014 (UTC)


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More print sources
"The miniseries format is so hot, even Cartoon Network is getting in on the action. Good thing, too: Over the Garden Wall is fantastic. Created by Patrick McHale (Adventure Time), the 10-part fairy tale (airing on five consecutive nights) stars Elijah Wood and Collin Dean as brothers on a journey through the woods that's equal parts creepy, charming, and just plain weird. Above all, it's never boring, and should be enjoyed by kids, adults, and talking bluebirds alike. A." "Skip it! This week's losers and must avoids: ... A five-night, Halloween-oriented fairy tale that tries to blend fantasy, horror and humor. Close, but no candy corn."

23W 04:56, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Refideas
23W 10:55, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 25 August 2016

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The result of the move request was: No consensus. (non-admin closure)  Omni Flames ( talk ) 07:10, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Over the Garden Wall → Over the Garden Wall (disambiguation)
 * Over the Garden Wall (miniseries) → Over the Garden Wall – primary topic. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 03:03, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Previous move discussion was in 2014. In 2015, the miniseries won two Emmy awards (and a third for the pilot), a Reuben award, and other awards, along with its continued critical acclaim and praise from audiences. Incoming wikilinks and daily pageviews:

I do think that now there are more indications that the miniseries is the primary topic by these merits, which point to its long-term significance over the other works called Over the Garden Wall whose significance is currently uncertain. At the very least, the miniseries should be the primary topic until the significance and "primary-topic-ness" of one of the other works is established. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 02:56, 25 August 2016 (UTC) --Relisting.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   06:30, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. Clear primary topic. We've had time to determine a primary topic, and in the two years since the last request everything still points to the miniseries still outshining the films considerably. Nohomersryan (talk) 06:25, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:RECENTISM. After the TV show is old news, it's not likely to have many more hits than the films.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  20:43, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. No clear primary topic here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:55, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


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"Various melodies and songs are heard throughout the series, often with pre-20th century influences."
pre-20th century? Surely this should be early 20th century? Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:12, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The source (TV Guide) says "pre-20th Century." Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 01:34, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's right, though, nor in line with actual interviews with the creators. Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:33, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sure it's not right. But if The New York Times says the sky is green, then it is. Your belief that the sky is blue is OR. To be fair, it can sound like early 20th Century music and yet claim to have pre-20th Century influences. Without a reliable source to say otherwise, I'm going with the source. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 03:05, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No it's not. It's just a sign that you're using a flawed osourcer, as other sources say differently.
 * We are never required - or even permitted - to use sources we know to be inaccurate. Here's other sources.
 * Patrick McHale, the creator opf the series says it's pre-1950s - and we should go with the much more reliable source. Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:40, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Is there no compromise? "Various melodies and songs are heard throughout the series; one journalist recognized influence in pre-20th century music, although McHale said that he drew from pre-1950s music." Or something to that effect? 23W 21:04, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Pre-1950 includes pre-20th century, so I don't think it's particularly useful. I mean, there's clearly some pre-20th century music in there - one of the songs is explicitly based on O Holy Night (1847), but pre-1950 includes 1847. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:26, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 31 March 2017

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The result of the move request was: all moved. (non-admin closure) TonyBallioni (talk) 01:18, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

– The case for the move is the same as before - the miniseries is critically acclaimed, won a Reuben and three Emmies and was nominated for two Annies, and its views are two or three orders of magnitude higher than the other films, all of which won no awards and received no critical acclaim nor had a lasting impact on cinema, as far as I can tell from their articles. Despite worries of recentism, the ten-year test suggests than an article about a critically-acclaimed award-wining series is more relevant than any of the mediocre and non-influencial films. Both by usage and long-term significance, the miniseries is the primary topic. --Relisting. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 18:05, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Over the Garden Wall → Over the Garden Wall (disambiguation)
 * Over the Garden Wall (miniseries) → Over the Garden Wall
 * Support. I still agree with myself in the previous discussion. This is the clear primary topic. Nohomersryan (talk) 19:19, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Support, as the miniseries is certainly the primary topic. – Matthew  - (talk) 00:05, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


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